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Lisen2Reason
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Jonbonbon
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Should the world stop using Oil/gas

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/14/2015 Category: Economics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Lisen2Reason

Pro

Oil/gas are prude inefficient resources that have only brought war and greed wherever they are found besides there is already more efficient cleaner better sources of energy like water,nuclear,fusion,solar etc.. the list goes on even the air in the atmosphere can be used as a source of energy. If there is so many sources of energy why don't we use them? well its because of the greed and laziness of the powerful because the better energies would be cheaper for the people and less of a burden they only care about money and themselves they are aiding in the destruction of our environment which at the pace we are at will be destroyed.
Jonbonbon

Con

Well, I'm assuming first round is for arguments.

1) Fossil fuels are a highly efficient energy source that power a majority of the world.

Due to the fact that fossil fuels are easily combustible and have a high calorific value, it's one of the most efficient energy sources in the world. [1] It has the highest energy output levels bIt's also the cheapest form of energy in the world as shown in the graph below. [2]

Engines can be run on rather small amounts of gas. For example, cars can be taken tens of miles on a couple gallons, because the engine is powered by exploding gas farts in the cylinders. That's kind of a funny way of saying it, but really, gas ignites and powers machines very easily.

2) Fossil fuels are highly reliable.

This is what I mean. Every time you light a bucket of gas on fire, that thing ignites on fire. If you ignite gas in a cylinder, that gas will explode.

If you put up a windmill Colorado Springs, you might get 1 kilowatt of energy per year.

Since I'm using windmills as an example, I should point out that it's actually one of the least reliable forms of alternative energy known to man. You have to have the right wind speeds to operate with an 11 mile per gap to work with for effective energy production. [3]
Typical power curve

As far as other forms of energy go, we know solar energy would only work in the UK for three days out of the year, and Arizona would get nothing out of hydro energy.

While it's possible that some of these alternative energies might work sometimes in these areas, it's impossible to say that we would have energy year round. Fossil fuels are the most reliable form of energy.

3) Nuclear energy has large disadvantages.

Nuclear energy is great as an energy substitute as far as energy output and cost go. However, it has a huge drawback, which is nuclear waste.

Nuclear energy uses radioactive materials to boil water. But these radioactive materials eventually decay past the point of use. When this happens, we have to find a place to put it. If you start to use nuclear energy for everyone in the world, we would have plenty of power, but storing that waste would be a nightmare.

If just a little plutonium leaks out of a storage tank due to natural wear on the storage unit and that plutonium gets into water, that piece of plutonium could easily poison a city. Just specks of plutonium can kill anyone who inhales or ingests them. [4]

So the alternative energy sources so far are either deadly or unreliable and inefficient.

Sources:

[1] http://www.conserve-energy-future.com...
[2] http://www.theenergycollective.com...
[3] http://www.wind-power-program.com...
[4] http://www.world-nuclear.org...

Debate Round No. 1
Lisen2Reason

Pro

Lisen2Reason forfeited this round.
Jonbonbon

Con

Please carry on my arguments.
Debate Round No. 2
Lisen2Reason

Pro

Lisen2Reason forfeited this round.
Jonbonbon

Con

Thank you for reading.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Jonbonbon 1 year ago
Jonbonbon
Hey Lisen, don't forfeit.
Posted by Jonbonbon 1 year ago
Jonbonbon
Oh makes sense. I thought maybe I was a little too good at being a saleswoman or something.
Posted by Wylted 1 year ago
Wylted
I was calling him a shill. He is making horrible arguments, so the oil company looks good in comparison to the idiots against them.
Posted by Jonbonbon 1 year ago
Jonbonbon
I'm just here to get my free elo
Posted by Jonbonbon 1 year ago
Jonbonbon
I have no idea what you're talking about Wylted.
Posted by Wylted 1 year ago
Wylted
Somebody is a shill for the oil companies.
Posted by Jonbonbon 1 year ago
Jonbonbon
Well now you're starting new arguments.

Besides, it doesn't matter if the world will stop using fossil fuels.

The debate is a cost/benefit analysis concerning the usage of fossil fuels given that we still have them. It doesn't matter that fossil fuels will run out. What matters is the question of whether or not we should just stop using them whether they're out or not.
Posted by Lisen2Reason 1 year ago
Lisen2Reason
https://collapseofindustrialcivilization.com...
http://www.ecology.com...
http://cleantechnica.com...
I couldn't put up graphs so i put a few websites i have found but fossil fuels no matter if they if they hurt the environment or if they are cheap they are not infinite like solar
Posted by Jonbonbon 1 year ago
Jonbonbon
But yeah, really use evidence. I already provided evidence, which means my credibility is way higher than yours right now.
Posted by Jonbonbon 1 year ago
Jonbonbon
Well, keep trying to post an argument on the debate, but you need to provide evidence. I even provided graphs for this to make my position more clear.

Besides, how many places in the world does thermal energy work? 80-90% of the world can't use thermal energy.
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Vote Placed by lannan13 1 year ago
lannan13
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Reasons for voting decision: Forfeiture