The Instigator
WampumDP
Pro (for)
Losing
0 Points
The Contender
Forthelulz
Con (against)
Winning
5 Points

Should there be Western "boots on the ground" in Iraq and Syria to combat ISIS?

Do you like this debate?NoYes+0
Add this debate to Google Add this debate to Delicious Add this debate to FaceBook Add this debate to Digg  
Post Voting Period
The voting period for this debate has ended.
after 2 votes the winner is...
Forthelulz
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/2/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 571 times Debate No: 76110
Debate Rounds (4)
Comments (0)
Votes (2)

 

WampumDP

Pro

So, I feel that the title of the debate is pretty self explanatory. When I say "Western boots on the ground" I refer to direct military intervention from Western powers, for example: The U.S., The U.K., France, etc... My opponent will be representing the con/against side of the debate. First round to confirm. Good luck!
Forthelulz

Con

I am accepting this debate.
This will be fun.
Here's a good hook for a story for you kids to read in the interim:

There once was this Black and White Space Marine on a Black and White Bike...
Debate Round No. 1
WampumDP

Pro

My libertarian side says "don't waste American lives and currency since this is not an imminent threat to our sovereign territory". However, given how quickly ISIS's strength has grown, one can argue that they already are a threat to our overseas interests and will soon be knocking on our front door. For those who think ISIS that isn't a threat/ our business, they have already executed the American journalist, James Foley (http://www.cnn.com...) and multiple other journalists (http://www.mirror.co.uk...). Let us also forget the countless innocent people who have been killed, raped, and sold into slavery by ISIS. Should the Western world stand idly by while this slaughter happens?
Forthelulz

Con

By all means, let the terrorists kill/enslave/torture their own people. Anyone who goes over there assumes the risk of being tortured/beheaded/shot under such a regime, who will want to show how powerful they are by publicly beheading them while the rest of the world looks on. Suffice it to say, if we were to get involved, we would be fighting an enemy that fights without a uniform and hides in the crowd. (Yes, Sabaton reference) As the good guys, we absolutely cannot fire on the innocents in that crowd. If we do have boots on the ground, we'll have no choice but to expose our men to an unfriendly populace, terrorists in the populace, a desert environment, and garrison/advisory duty, a fate worse than death, military career-wise.
So we'd be taking talent and putting it into a dead-end with a risk of death or serious injury.
It's not worth it.
Debate Round No. 2
WampumDP

Pro

WampumDP forfeited this round.
Forthelulz

Con

I thought you were a good kid! And then you soapboxed! Why? WHY?
*insane laughter*
*punting sound*
*dog yelps*
Look what you made me do!
*cut to a soccerball flying through the air as a teacup poodle is being fed. The teacup poodle is yelping. The ball misses the goal.*
You messed up my shot!
Debate Round No. 3
WampumDP

Pro

WampumDP forfeited this round.
Forthelulz

Con

Just... drop a "Forthelulz wins" and move along, please.
Debate Round No. 4
No comments have been posted on this debate.
2 votes have been placed for this debate. Showing 1 through 2 records.
Vote Placed by TheJuniorVarsityNovice 2 years ago
TheJuniorVarsityNovice
WampumDPForthelulzTied
Agreed with before the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Who had better conduct:-Vote Checkmark-1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:04 
Reasons for voting decision: ff, pro concedes con's arguments. good job con
Vote Placed by FaustianJustice 2 years ago
FaustianJustice
WampumDPForthelulzTied
Agreed with before the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Who had better conduct:-Vote Checkmark-1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:--Vote Checkmark3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:01 
Reasons for voting decision: Virtue of last man standing, FF,