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Should there be a Death Penalty??

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Started: 7/23/2008 Category: Society
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
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liberty

Con

Greetings everyone,
I want to discuss the issue of the death penalty. The death penalty is a favorite debate topic and this debate could go either way depending on the arguments. I have chosen to debate against it because I don't believe in taking away lives no matter what the reason. In a nutshell I believe the following:
The death penalty is a violation of the most basic human right, the right to live which is also one of the basic principles on which the United States of America was founded. Also such a decision (to execute someone) is irreversible and if the man/woman convicted is found innocent afters his/her conviction he may not be brought back to life. Additionally take into consideration that killing a killer is still considered killing and nobody has a right to do so.
These are my arguments for now I'll save the rest for round 2 and 3, right now I would like to hear your response hope its a great one, good luck and enjoy the debate
pokemon1571

Pro

I think that the Death Penalty is good is some cases.
Lets say some guy raped 10 5 year old girls then killed them. The guy should get the Death Penalty. Human rights? Please the guy violated those girls rights by raping them and then kill them.
Think about those 10 5 year old girls family's, would they feel safer if that guy was still alive, I don't think so.

Lets try get off the Human Rights thing and onto cost, it is cheaper for the government to use the death penalty then have the person spend life in prison. It is also cheaper for us tax payers.
Debate Round No. 1
liberty

Con

Nice response but:

The man you are referring to is definitely mentally ill and his actions were unacceptable a lifetime in prison may be enough to punish him severely for his sick actions and in many situations such a punishment is worse than death. If the man is in jail never to come out than the families have no reason to worry about him so why do you say that the family would not be secure.

Despite his actions he has a right to live :Don't forget what the declaration of Independence says:

"We hold these facts to be self-evident, that all men are men ... are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and pursuit of happiness"

Notice it does not say all men except for murderers it simply says all men, meaning that it includes murdering, raping scum! So he has a right to live although he has lost the right to be free. Despite that, he deserves punishment and needs to be kept away from others because he is dangerous and jail does both. Finally it prevents future crime because people fear a life in prison, this is surely not as threatening as the death penalty but if a life in jail with lousy food and conditions, until death doesn't scare the potential criminals than I don't think death will either.

The only setback of prison as compared to the death penalty is that it is more expensive and costs tax-payers money. This is a strong argument but you can't seriously believe that if a pearson costs you less when he is dead than he does when he is alive you should kill him ????!!!

It was cheaper for Hitler to gas people, but did that make it right?
HELL NO!
pokemon1571

Pro

It is true that the guy might have been mentally ill, but you can put the tag mentally ill on anyone who has murdered someone.
Plus there wasn't enough evidence to show from what I gave you that the guy is mentally ill.
So here is more info about the guy......
Name: Bob Joeheart
Age: 26
Race: White
State: California
Town: LA
Previous Crimes:
Date August 25, 1998:
Crime: Trespassing
Sentience 25 hours of community service
More info about this crime: Gang Related
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Date June 22, 1999
Crime Robbery
Sentience 2 months in Juvenal Jail
More info about this crime: Gang Related
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Date December 23 2000
Crime Home Invasion, Robbery
Sentience 4 Years in Jail
More info about this crime: Gang Related
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Date March 15 2005
Crime 10 counts of assault, 10 counts of Kidnapping,10 counts Child Rape, 10 counts of Murder
More info about this crime: This crime was a gang related, also all 10 of those children were killed to send a message to the other gangs.
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So do you still think this guy or Bob Joeheart still shouldn't get the death penalty?

Also If Hilter didn't take the cowards way out do you think that he would have gotten the death penalty? What about Saddam Hussain he also gassed his people did he deserve the death penalty? Also if Osama Bin Laden is captured do you think he should get the death penalty?
Debate Round No. 2
liberty

Con

Nice Answear but...:

1.) There is more than enough evidence in your first argument that this man is sick. Which sane pearson would rape and kill little girls ??

2.) I think you don't think understand the meaning of punishment. A criminal has to be kept away from others, so he dosn't pose a threat to society, and be punished for his actions, so similar ones are not repeted nor by him nor by others. If he is put in jail then he won't do it again and it will prevent others from doing so why kill him ??? Punishing for a reason (crime) but without a purpose is not logicall and belongs in the past (ex. Middle Ages).

3.)

A.) Every pearson has a right to live and be free ,although freedom may be taken away as a punishment to prevent future crimes life may not. Some force (I call it god or nature etc) nomatter why gave us life and it should be the one to take it back.

B.) History has taught us that the death penalty can not be reversed and results are final, so innocent victims may die, wheras when they are in jail they can just bereleased, thus saving lives.

C.) Above I have explained that jail is more efficient in all areas but money and killing someone for your own economy ,asI explained is just as bad as killing a man/woman out of the blue.

Thanks a lot for reading this. I am eager to see what my worthy opponent is going to answear. I plead for just voting and wish you all a good day. :D
pokemon1571

Pro

It is true that innocent people have died from the death penalty.
But now it takes the person longer to get death from the death penalty in the United States. Even when the person who is on death row and they are getting ready to use the death penalty on him they can still stop it.
Inside the death room they have phones in case it gets canceled, they also have a emergency doctor there and drugs to reverse the effects of the drugs they put in the person.

The death penalty is like a power, it should not be abused yet it should yet sometimes still be used.
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