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Jacobbruce
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CosmoJarvis
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Should transgender people be allowed into the bathroom they identify with?

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Started: 3/25/2017 Category: Politics
Updated: 9 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Jacobbruce

Con

I think they shouldn't be. Anyone can CLAIM they're transgender, then go into whichever bathroom they want.
CosmoJarvis

Pro

The Trans Bathroom controversy: a bastian against trans rights. Conservatives and concerned parents use this argument to keep trans people out of the bathroom they identify with. I believe that transgender people should be allowed to use the bathroom they identify with.

Many people such as my opponent may argue that allowing this will increase the risk of people sexually harassing people in bathrooms. However, I ask that my opponent and the spectators keep this in mind: there are NO reported cases of people claiming they're trans go and sexually harass people in public restrooms.

These such articles assert the truth of how there have been no actual cases of trans people sexually harassing people in public bathrooms:
http://www.usatoday.com...
https://mediamatters.org...
https://mic.com...
Debate Round No. 1
Jacobbruce

Con

While no ones been sexually harassed in public restrooms by someone who claims to be trans, there has been a case of a man physically harming an 8 year old in a public restroom while claiming to be trans:
http://m.washingtontimes.com...
CosmoJarvis

Pro

My opponent, to rebut my claims, provides only an account of one occurrence of a man assaulting a child in the woman's restroom. By no means should the act of a man assaulting a young girl in a public restroom be overlooked. However, regardless of whether or not he identified as transgender, he was clearly mentally insane. Simply because there was one delusional, psychotic man claiming to be transgender doesn't mean that all or most transgender people act similarly, or that people will identify as transgender to go to the bathroom of their opposite sex. For example, if an average white male decides to murder someone, should we assume that all average white men have the tendency and are likely to murder people? If a homosexual man sexually abuses one child, should we assume that all homosexual men will try to sexually abuse children?

My opponent has failed to provide any strong evidence that suggests we should establish safeguards against people claiming to be transgender from going to the bathroom of their choosing. Instead, he has an argument of a total of 3 sentences and one article.
Debate Round No. 2
Jacobbruce

Con

Another reason why letting people who claim to be transgender into the bathroom of their choosing is bad is voyeurism.

https://www.google.com...

http://eaglerising.com...

https://www.google.com...

http://www.standfirminfaith.com...

http://www.newnationalist.net...

https://www.google.com...

http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com...

https://www.google.com...

While voyeurism doesn't harm anyone physically, it's an invasion of privacy
CosmoJarvis

Pro

In a desperate attempt to indirectly refute my claims, my opponent tries to post eight other links. He fails to explain how the links are relevant, and tasks myself and the audience to read through all of these articles. He doesn't add any summaries nor does he include important quotes from the articles. And not only does he lazily put links with no analysis or any other arguments or rebuttals whatsoever, but his sources are completely biased and unreliable. His first source is Breitbart News, a news source which, as many may recognize, employed bigoted people such as Milo Yiannopoulos. The majority of his sources are conservative and/or religious news sources which strike me as peculiar.

My opponent's article from EagleRising.com does not talk about any specific occurrences of men assaulting women in public restrooms. It only talks about Toronto college's decision to use gendered bathrooms. http://eaglerising.com...

My opponent's articles from Newnationalist.net, Standfirminfaith, Mostholyfamilymonastery.com, and Lifesitenews.org are all based around the same thing: data from a Canadian pastor about voyeurism in public restrooms. The "data" from the Canadian pastor does not possess any sources that can support the Canadian pastor's findings. There is nothing supporting these claims, which make the Canadian pastor's data unreliable and potentially biased.

My opponent's article from the New York Times, while it does legitimately recognize that a person claiming to be transgender was a sexual predator, also notes that, though indirectly, transgender people should still be allowed to have the right to use the restroom they identify with, concluding the article with “This has nothing to do with whether or not I should be allowed to use the bathroom in a restaurant, whether a first grader can use the bathroom, whether a high schooler can play school sports,” Ms. Keisling said. “If this person was a voyeur, they will be dealt with by the legal justice system the way they deal with voyeurs.” My opponent's blatant oversight of this demonstrates that my opponent was lazy in how he chose and how he used his sources. https://www.nytimes.com...
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by CosmoJarvis 9 months ago
CosmoJarvis
Good debate.
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