Should we Increase Taxes on the Middle class?
-We are talking about America I am assuming? or just in general
-Is this for the current economic state or "in a perfect world scenario"?
I asked if taxing the middle class more was a positive or a negative.
You just showed me a bunch of random statistics that mean nothing in this conversation. Now I will prove why less taxes will grow the economy instead of hurting it. Under Preisdent Obama's 7 tax bracket we have see the middle class of this country hammered with taxes. This becomes a problem because there's not enough people spending in our country. For an economy to work especially ours we need people spending, lower interest rates, lower taxes and a higher GDP. All of which have been neglected under Obama. When people have more money in their pocket and are being taxed at a lesser rate they tend to spend more money. Under this president we have seen the corporate, federal and business tax all increased. This has forced small businesses to leave the country due to these higher taxes. Another crucial fact is that Obama passed Dodd Frank a bill with thousands of regulations on businesses that killed community banks. Anyways back to the point. As these jobs leave the country, we see more and more people losing their jobs. This creates an economic disaster where people are left job less AND paying higher taxes. This is simply absurd and what makes it worse believe it or not is Obama care. Obama care states than any business with 50 or more employees who work 30 or more hours a week cannot qualify for it. So ahen a company gurantees this healthcare to it's workers, they then must fire many workers and cut their hours so they can give them this healthcare that they promised. This again leaves millions job less and I haven't even talked about how high the premiums are. Deductibles under the ACA and premiums have all risen under Obama. This creates AGAIN an economic disaster in which people are paying an absurd amount of their own money. My last point is just that, this is THEIR money and they deserve to keep it, higher taxes kill jobs, businesses and the middle class.
I did not "dodge" your question. You never made any rules in the first round so I assumed 2nd round was constructive only. Your only attack on my case was, "You just showed me a bunch of random statistics that mean nothing in this conversation.". That literally the only claim you made against my case. And even if you think my statistics are absurd, you've created an Argumentum ad lapidem (to the stone) fallacy by not responding/attacking my claims. Therefore the entirety of my case stands. Moving back to your one point of me inserting a lot of random statistics I find this highly hypocritical. All you have done is brought up Obama's policy's and not the actual core of my argument.
I will have to fundamentally disagree with the statement you made, "For an economy to work especially ours we need people spending, lower interest rates..." Lower interest rates just create economic uncertainty. It makes people become unwise with their money and frantic about spending. You might argue that this would create stimulus and I would agree. But it would create stimulus for the wrong people. Of course the millionaires you were talking about would make better economic decisions than your every day joe, So in turn the middle class, with poor economic choices, would pour money into the upper class. And How would lower taxes stimulate the economy. Wouldn't higher taxes be just like lower interest rates and stimulate the economy. Would it not be better to invest that money into assets instead of getting it taxed. You stated that smaller businesses have left the country due to a high tax increase yet you brought up no evidence. You went so far off of topicality that you had to say, "anyways back to the point". You stated as businesses have left the country more and that more people have lost their jobs. Then why have we seen unemployment plummet in the past 2 years? Your claim of corporate inversion is incoherent with this resolution because anyone can use corporate inversion regardless of social class. Furthermore, as you stated, most types of it are illegal. So this is just a miscarriage of justice and does not follow the coherence theory of truth. You stated that conservative presidents such as Reagan helped our economy. You stated that our economy "was the greatest its ever been" with Reagan. Ronald reagan tripled the debt from 900 billion to 2.7 trillion in his eight year presidential career. This shows that economic principles such as trickle-down economics do not work and do not promote the general idea of a "fiscal conservative". My opponents last point was that it was their money and they deserve to keep it. Then why is he advocating only for a middle class tax reduction. Under his/her/they criteria we should adopt a flat tax. Donald J Trumps tax plan as he/she/they presented does not follow his criteria and as such I cannot see following the flow of this debate.
I would like to point out again that I do not have to defend any claims made in my case what so ever due to the fact that my opponent never attacked my case. My entire case still stands while I have refuted all of his claims.
Thank you and I urge and a pro vote