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Should we be sympathetic to the cause of refugees and asylum seekers

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Started: 4/27/2016 Category: Politics
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I think we should be sympathetic about the cause of refugees. There is many basic human rights that are being taken away from these people such as the right to education, shelter, food and water. This has been an ongoing war since 2011 they need our help. These people can also benefit the country by many ways, such as employment, economic growth etc. Any such people we should definitely take in and protect. If it's a matter of being symaptheic then there's no question! They're scared and helpless, so we should help them, give them a second chance at life. It makes sense.


At first Pro's assertion sounds right. It sounds nice. It sounds good. It sounds like what "God would want." But the world is not black and white. Reality takes intellectual discernment.

One must understand your enemy to overcome them. The problem is that Islam understands the West, while the West does not understand Islam.


In Islam lying and espionage are commanded and permitted towards the infidels.(That would be us.)

"And lead to destruction those whom you can with your seductive voice." (Quran 17:64)


"Consisting of the art of making ambiguous statements, paying lip-service to authority while reserving personal opposition, in a kind of political camouflage or reservatio mentalis."


"A form of Islamic dissimulation or a legal dispensation whereby a believing individual can deny their faith or commit otherwise illegal or blasphemous acts while they are in fear or at risk of significant persecution."

Other ideas of lying to us in Islam:



-and more

Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746 - 8.2) -

"Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible."

Point? Islam has no religious conscience towards flat out lying to us and trying to destroy us while pretending to be one of us.


Muslims are brothers to the bone, and exlude us in their minds.

"The Believers are but a single Brotherhood."

(Quran 49:10)

Muslims commanded to show us no mercy.-

"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are severe against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves."

(Quran 48:29)

We(the people that are going to help them) are the worst humans on Earth.-

"Those who disbelieve from among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures."

(Quran 98:6)

Commanded to fight us.-

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty."

(Quran 9:123)

Come against us.-

"Listen not to the unbelievers, but strive (Jihad) against them with the utmost strenuousness."

(Quran 25:52)

Bring us to disgrace.-

"Fight them, them by your hands and bring them to disgrace." (9:14)

Conquer the world.-

"And fight them until there is no more ftna (unbelief, worshipping others beside Allah), and religion is all for Allah."

(Quran 8:39)

Destroy us by deception.-

"We shall punish them gradually from directions they perceive not."

(Quran 68:44)

They are commanded to kill us.-

"And slay them wherever you come upon them, and expel them from where they expelled you."

(Quran 2:191)

"This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off."

(Quran 5:33)

Behead us.-

"I shall cast into the unbelievers’ hearts terror; so smite above the necks, and smite every finger of them!"

(Quran 8:12)

Fight us.-

"Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden."

(Quran 9:29)

Beat disobediant women.-

"Those you fear may be rebellious, admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them."

(Quran 4:34)

They believe killing us automatically gets them to Heaven-

"Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon Allah in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Koran; and who fulfils his covenant truer than Allah? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph.”

(Quran 9:111)

Do they all think this way? Good question. But in a religion that is commanded to lie to us and destroy us by any means, can we believe anything any of them say? Is it worth the risk? Silence could be a mask. "Friendship" with us could be a mask. What if it's ALL planned?

The 9/11 hijackers had the media in disarray. They had went to stripclubs while they were here, which made no sense to the West because this is forbidden in Islam right?

If you scan through the Islamic art of deception as explained at the top of this very argument, it makes perfect sense. Lie, befriend, blend in, kill, destroy.


Rape our women? Yes

(Sahih Muslim 3371)

(Umdat al-Salik O9.13)

(Quran 4:24)

A female Islamic professor claimed that Allah allows Muslim men to rape infidel women to disgrace them.

Debate Round No. 1


Sara95 forfeited this round.


Muslim declares "Islam is not a religion of peace."

Muslim tells us what the penalty for apostasy is in Islam. Surprise, surprise. It is Death...

Norway took in refugees and Islamic immigrants. The rape epidemic became so bad that blonde Norwegian women started dying their hair black as a disguise.

When Islamic immigrants/regugees see things that don't fit their worldview, they go crazy. In this case they took over a theatre, yelled "Allahu Akbar!" Over and over, and attacked police.

Poland tried it. Looks like they didn't like it. (The 150,000 anti-Islam march)

Here, a crowd of Muslim refugees is offered food and water. Instead of taking it, they boo and hiss and throw things at the officers trying to help them. Why? The supplies were no halal...

Here they don't want bottled water that officers offer them as they get off of the train, so they begin tossing it onto the train tracks in disgust. How dare someone offer them food and water!

Germany opened their arms to these "refugees". In one night over 1,000 women reported being sexually assaulted in one night. It was labeled as "Rape jihad". If one know Islam they know full well infidel women are "fair game". Even better. If they can catch and capture an infidel woman, they can keep her as a sex slave, rape her at their will, and beat her. Why? Muhhamed said to in the Quran.

Hungarians gave them asylum, so what happened? The Muslims through rocks at them.

I'll just put the truth out there, and say it how it is. The Quran says to kill us. The Quran says to rape our women. The Quran says Muslims are "superior" to all nonmuslims. The Quran says to treat us like the "pigs and apes" that we are. The Quran says you can take yourself some infidel sex slaves. The Quran to destroy us. The Quran says to outbreed us, infiltrate us, and intermix with us, and spread Islam in conquest over the entire Earth and by force. The entire world is to be under Sharia Law according to Islam.

Debate Round No. 2


Sara95 forfeited this round.


Sadly, the refugees come from an ideology that is commanded to destroy us. They come from an ideology that commands them to lie to us and espionage us.

This very group of people was welcomed with open arms. In one night they sexually assaulted over 1,000 German women in one night. We have to make sure that never happens here in the U.S.

We are obligated to protect our ladies as American men. We have the responsibility as parents to protect our children. As Americans we are responsible for protecting each other. It isn't nice or lovely, but evil does exist, and an evil ideology exists that does not want to coexist. We have the right to deny it any leverage, power, or place in our society.
Debate Round No. 3
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