Should we continue the practice of solitary confinement in the United States criminal justice system
2. Solitary confinement cause prisoners severe mental harm and places them at risk of even more devastating psychological harm in the future.
3. Craig Haney, a psychologist at UC, has estimated that a third of the population in solitary confinement are made up of mentally ill people.
4. The correctional system job is to rehabilitate their population in a way that they can be less of a social burden to society.
5. The system is breaking the people"s psychological state and are having enough funds to fix them in a way society can see them as able to join the free population.
6. Sociality is the tendency of groups and persons to develop social links and live in communities.
8. People that were in solitary confinement associate more with people that faced solitary confinement.
7. Would you want to be in solitary confinement where only a bed, shower, and a toilet is all you have for the next twenty- two to twenty-four hours of the day?
C. We should not continue the practice of solitary confinement in the United States criminal justice system.
3, 5, 7
Premise 3 is an estimated number. Premise 5 is talking about funds the correctional facilities have and where they spend the money received. Premise 7 is hard to track but people who have common history in prison are known to associate with each other.
Premise 1 is a definition. Premise 2 is backed by psychological studies and defies human nature. Premise 4 that is where convicted people go to serve time and where rehabilitation occurs. Premise 6 is a definition.
Premise 8 is a question.
1. I agree with the definition of solitary confinement; however, I would also like to add that they are allowed to see/interact with prison guards.
3. Solitary confinement is not entirely immoral nor is it unethical because of its intention of disciplining someone.
4. Being disciplined is good.
6. The eighth amendment states: “Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.”
7. Solitary confinement cannot be considered cruel and unusual punishment because it might be harmful to one’s psyche. It is not a definite outcome of being placed into solitary confinement.
8. Regarding the statistic “…A third of the population in solitary confinement are made up of mentally ill people,” does that reflect our current time, or the past? Because in the past, prior to the eighth amendment, people that were mentally ill were considered a danger to society, so they incarcerated them. Thereafter, the ‘cruel and unusual’ part of the eighth amendment was created. If it is allowed, then it does not violate the eighth amendment.
9. I do not agree with it being a social burden. How is this a social burden if the prisoners are being placed in isolation? They are no longer a burden if they are out of sight.
10. Americans pay enough taxes on prisons and prisoners now, how is ‘fixing them in a way society can see them as able to join the free population’ going to lessen that amount? It won’t – it will only add to the massive amount of taxes each American citizen already has to pay.
11. There are other ways to integrate them back into society. For example look at a soldier returning home for war that's been diagnosed with PTSD. The mental state is clearly unstable; however, after some time they are able to socialize with society again. How? Because of their influences they have in their life. With the right motivation and incentive a person can accomplish whatever they want.
12. Forms of solitary confinement are used in every day life and work; for instance, children -- (instead of being hit) they are placed in a corner for an hour or two. These tactics are used for discipline.
13. Therefore, solitary confinement is necessary, and we should continue the practice of it.
Non-controversial: premise 1 is stating, and adding to, the definition of solitary confinement. Premise 2 is a casual claim; therefore, it cannot be controversial. Premise 6 is what the eighth amendment states, nothing is being argued there. Premise 8 is asking for additional clarification because pro’s premise was too vague to determine what was meant by “…a third of the population.”
Controversial: All other premises can be refuted and argued. None of my arguments have accurate evidence to support the claims; however, it is based off of common knowledge -- what that may be considered will vary depending on the person. Premise 9 is a question, but is also followed by a subjective statement, and it can be argued.
2 That is subjective and has been shown to cause issues in the future.
3. It is unethical and immoral because it is against human rights.
4. Being disciplined is good when the punishment is equal to the violation, but while trying to fix them the correction institution should not use a method that breaks their mental state.
5. It is not acceptable because it deviates from the purpose of our criminal justice system we have.
6. The Gomez court ruled that the degree of psychological trauma inflicted on the average prisoner is not enough by itself to create an Eighth Amendment violation. This shows that there are psychological damages done whether its legal or not under the constitution. Proving that it violates the eighth amendment is like trying to win an eminent domain case in court.
7. There are studies that prove it is harmful to the psyche.
8.Mentally ill people were incarcerated because the study of the human mind began with Sigmund Freud and which will show that the mentally ill were misunderstood at that time.
9. It is a social burden when they are released from prison.
10. Do humans have a monetary value? If they do then how much money are you willing to spend on to keep a family member from being diagnosed with a mental illness?
11. Most people in prison do not have anyone to help them, so comparing them to a soldier in this situation is an inaccurate comparison.
12. An hour or two is different from spending 22hrs or more. Just because it is used by parents does not make it right.
1. Prison is not a form of rehabilitation; therefore, interaction with anyone is not even necessary. Regardless, people are not in imprisoned to make friends, they are there to atone for their mistakes. When a person commits a crime, they are aware of what they are doing (with the exception of the mentally ill, and the ‘insane.’) Furthermore, they do not receive any form of rehabilitation, but rather a form of strict incarceration. The definition of solitary confinement does not address the issue of rehabilitation.
2.You already implied that you agree with my premise stating problems can occur and arguing whether it happens now or later is irrelevant. When studies show a problem in someone"s mind is happening it becomes very clear that it becomes torture because as humans we crave social interactions to maintain a healthy mental mind.
3.They are being hurt, and right to life are being violated. When someone is being hurt it is under the torture category of the basic human rights and a right to life is being violated by not living in safety. Their safety is being violated when their mind is not in a safe and healthy environment. Psychological abuse is exposing a person to an environment that results in psychological trauma.
4. What is being done is conditioning. We are not dogs wearing a bell. We act because of decisions we make and can be reasoned with. I understand you are using it as a discipline but as you probably know, rehab takes place in prison and jail and if they break one of the rules in prison, they have to go through more intense rehab to retrieve the damage mind. Sacrificing a mind is like sacrificing a person.
6. Are okay with putting a person in a small room with no windows?
7. You agreed that damages a person.
8.A report in 2003 states a third of the solitary confined population has a mental illness.
9.It is common to have ex-cons applying for government assistance, which is payed for by the people and you previously were stating it cost alot to house them and now adding to taxes towards their benefits just adds up more. Do you believe they should be fixed in prison while serving time?
10.The government is the people. We could change how taxes are done. And money is being given to those that choose to adopt not couples paying to adopt. We do not pay for a child, we do pay for what they wear and eat and any other essentials to live.
11.Most is more than 50%. I do not know, but that is why we have people in correctional facilities to help them while they are there.
12.They are taking a beating, not physically though. To show that they understand they should be asked, but they are just released from confinement and left alone until they mess up again.
2. Solitary confinement should not be used for rehabilitation due to the damage it causes.
3. Using solitary confinement as a tool to implement punishment is torture to the person receiving.
4. Humans are very social creatures.
5. It burdens the freed people that have to pay for helping these people that faced solitary confinement to help fix the psyche of the person.
6. Correction officers in the prisons are not psychologist and do not understand the damage solitary confinement does.
7. Correction officers may see solitary confinement as punishment.
8. Prison are focused on keeping order within and not rehabilitating the inmates.
C. Solitary confinement should not be used in the criminal justice system.
11.Therefore, solitary confinement is necessary, and we should continue the practice of it.
While bits and pieces of my argument have adjusted due to agreements/disagreements, my conclusion remains the same.