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Should we pull out of Iraq?

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 8/28/2008 Category: News
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Herbert Hoover once said, "Older men declare war, but it is the youth that must fight and die." Our invasion of Iraq is unjustified we went there in search of weapons of mass destruction, but we found none, and still we are there. Its like a search warrant, you search for the things you are looking for only. We dont need to try to control another country when we can barley control our own


Her one main point she brings up is this: There were no WMD's so we have no right to stay.

--> This is indeed untrue. According to the UN definition of WMD: Nuclear weapons, Biological Weapons, Chemical Weapons, and Long Ranged Ballistic Missiles.

--> After the Iraqi freedom campaign, many caches of Biological weapons were discovered. Also, caches of long ranged ballistic missiles were discovered. So, essentially there were WMD's. You can now negate since I have undermined her basic premise.

--> I will however, present my own case.

I negate: We should pull out of Iraq

Contention I: Humanitarian Reasons/Moral Reasons

A) According to the US State Department. Withdrawing from Iraq right now could potentially end up in the slaughtering of innocent Iraqis. Numbers can reach up to 1,000,000 civilians killed by militias, terrorists, and other regional countries. Leaving from Iraq would cause these massive amounts of death, who would be on our hands. E.g. When we left Vietnam, millions of innocent Vietnamese were killed by the communists.

B) The US got into this mess, and thus we ought to be the ones to fix it. Withdrawing without eradicating the problem only puts a moral stain on us. We need to take responsibility for the action we took by invading.

C) Our soldiers and the Iraqi force has seen casualties. Leaving now only puts their work in vain. The dead, would have died for nothing. We must finish what we have done.

Contention II: Success of the Surge

The Surge has worked. Sectarian violence has gone down 70% (NY TIMES, FOX NEWS, and CNN). This new adopted plan is creating victory within Iraq. Leaving now would destroy the success that this plan has made. Why should we leave when we are winning? We have the terrorists on the run, violence is down. NOW is the time to make the final push. NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO WITHDRAW.

Contention III: The Iranian Threat

Iran has numerous times called for domination over the middle east. Iraq, however always stood in that way. With Saddam Hussein down, only the US and the newly established government is blocking Iran's ambitions. If we leave, then Iran and her terrorist allies would easily take Iraq and stop all the progressive that has been made. If this happens, then the next President would have to send troops back in. Both McCain and Obama understand this. More people would die if we had to go back in and fight Iran, then if we would just stay there as protectors and force Iran to keep still. According to Leaving Iraq would lead to Iranian domination of the region, which would lead to above $7 gas prices, and more then 1,000,000 Iraqi civilian dead. If we go back, according to politico, American casualties could go into the tens of thousands. Therefore, we must stay and deter an Iranian move until we have made the country self-sufficient. Even then, according to both Presidential candidates, we will keep military basis there just in case.
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Posted by wjmelements 8 years ago
ciRr0 is the obvious victor: he negated the opponet's contentions completely and then set up almost flawless contentions to counter.
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