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Should zoos exist?

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Started: 12/12/2013 Category: Health
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Gold5301

Con

Acceptance and order round
2-4 argument
If you want to forfeit anytime, just say I forfeit and we can chat
Must use sources and list them
potat0

Pro

Alright, present your arguments
Debate Round No. 1
Gold5301

Con

Animals are treated poorly in zoos. Zoos don't have enough space for a big animal like a lion or an elephant. Animals in the UK are also forced to do tricks like in a circus.
Sources:
http://www.captiveanimals.org...
potat0

Pro

Zoos are places for animals, mostly endangered and on the brink of extinction. It is also beneficial to the research and studies of people and helps people to notice and realize that we would have to take care of these animals. This human action is far better than those in the wild, poaching and cutting down trees. Reputable zoos are accredited by the Association of Zoos and Aquariums. Is the zoo you have mentioned accredited by this association?

http://animalrights.about.com...

In the article it said, "This dead wallaby was left to rot by staff at Tweddle Farm Zoo for two weeks and the zoo refused to carry out a post mortem to establish why the animal died" It did not mention at all that it was because of the zoo's environment that the animal died but because of the staff. Perhaps, it would be better to hire new staff.

As for the space, would you rather have the polar bears, elephants, tigers and lions have as much space as they would like but would not be able to live and survive in it? The animals that are brought in to zoos are ones that need the help.

Stereotypes not only occur in zoo animals but in household pets too. In this website http://en.wikipedia.org..., it says "These behaviors may be.. involving self-injury or reduced reproductive success" The point of zoos is to assess these problems and find ways to solve them.

Also, just because one zoo may have treated animals poorly, it does not mean other zoos are the same.
Debate Round No. 2
Gold5301

Con

You asked me that " would you rather have the polar bears, elephants, tigers and lions have as much space as they would like but would not be able to live and survive in it?" My answer to that is is neither. I would switch to national parks if i were you. National parks give animals much more space than zoos. also, national parks don't interfere with the animal. this way, the animals can learn how to hunt for itself. Would you like to see an animal in a zoo being released into the wild without the knowledge to hunt? this will just make it an easier target and they will die out faster, from starvation and predators.
You say zoos try to solve problems, well according to the source above (in round 2) animals die earlier in zoos than in the wild.
Also, my opponent's source is vague and not direct.
Thank you and good luck
Sources
http://www.nps.gov...
http://www.captiveanimals.org...
potat0

Pro

My opponent asked me "Would you like to see an animal in a zoo being released into the wild without the knowledge to hunt?"

No, I would not. But if my opponent is implying that zoos let animals out with no knowledge to hunt, they are wrong.
There are programs and organizations that help animals and introduce them into being in the wild. Like this organization: http://www.iucnsscrsg.org...
Debate Round No. 3
Gold5301

Con

Ok, so there is an organization that teaches animals, but are all zoos in it?
All national parks are hand-free. So no one will bother the animal and their ecosystem.
Opponent never countered the fact that animals die earlier in zoos
Sources
http://www.nps.gov...
potat0

Pro

The IUCNSSC organization is global.

National parks may be hand-free but people still come into national parks to camp and do many other activities in them.
http://tourismimpactsnp.wordpress.com... This article is written by someone who has worked in a national park and has commented on the amount of waste left behind. Now, I know that there are people that clean the garbage up but they only come every single morning as the author said so it leaves plenty of time for animals to be able to reach the garbage which is harmful for them. As you have also mentioned, the national parks are a big space. It would be very hard to cover that space by clean up crews.

The animals brought into zoos are endangered and in need of help. I don't think you can compare them to those that are healthy and roam in the wild because you wouldn't have known how long those animals being brought into zoos would live in the wild.

National parks can only also accommodate animals that can live in the climate of that specific are so more endangered and animals in need of help wouldn't be able to go into national parks unlike zoos that can accommodate animals in an indoor environment.
Debate Round No. 4
Gold5301

Con

National Parks can also help endangered animals. Take the wolves for example, they were extinct in the US before they were reintroduced to Yellowstone National Park.
National parks can also limit the amount of camping
That is it. VOTE FOR ME THANK YOU
potat0

Pro

potat0 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Gold5301 3 years ago
Gold5301
i need to go, debate with you tomorrow, good luck and bye for now
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