The Instigator
ollie342
Con (against)
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14 Points
The Contender
Shtookah
Pro (for)
Winning
63 Points

Slavery

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/4/2011 Category: Politics
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 9,158 times Debate No: 14254
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ollie342

Con

Enough said, slavery was a bad thing.
Shtookah

Pro

Just for the record, I myself am completely against slavery...

That being said I will be more than happy to debate con on whether slavery was an overall bad thing in both a social and economical sense.

*DEFINITIONS*

Slavery: " Work done under harsh conditions for little or no pay."

Exploitation: " The act of employing to the greatest possible advantage. "

*ARGUMENTS*

[1]. As far as morals are concerned, it's widely excepted in today's society that slavery is wrong. Although sense con has stated " Enough said, slavery WAS a bad thing. " I can assume that this debate will be argued from a historical perspective. Knowing that, I can assure you that previous to Harriet Beecher Stowe's "Uncle Tom's Cabin" & the up-brewing abolitionist movement, slavery was not viewed by most whites and non-slaves to be immoral. Keep in mind obviously slaves certainly hated slavery. ( As they should have) But to assume that everyone at this time viewed slavery to be a bad thing or immoral for that matter would be a some what of a naive belief.

[2]. Con states in a very frank matter that slavery was a bad thing. I would ask him to elaborate his statement and perhaps go into further detail. If my opponent wishes to pass his statement as a fact he will need much more than a single sentence containing seven words..

[3]. In a financial sense, many people made outrageous amounts of profit off slavery. Due to the innovations in technology such as the cotton gin, an economic boom was taking place along with the most exploited form of labor from the slave trade. Regardless of how immoral you may view a certain action. If the people doing that said action are getting rich off of it, and profits are only getting exponentially higher, I can assure you that those people will not view it as a "bad" thing.

Sources:
[1] http://www.pbs.org...
[3] http://funwithhistory.wordpress.com...
Debate Round No. 1
ollie342

Con

Go to the ghetto and say that and I will concede you the victory.
Shtookah

Pro

Say what exactly? That slave owners made huge amounts of profit off slave labor? (Which they did) That historically speaking before the abolitionist movement became very popular, most non-slaves in that time did not necessarily view slavery as immoral? Sorry con, these are historical facts. Sense a good of number people were making boat loads of money of the atrocity that is slavery, its hard to say that everyone during this time accepted the idea that slavery was bad. Truth is if you were in search of cheap to free labor, and wanted to make huge amounts of profit regardless of morals, than slavery was really not that bad of an option. During the era of which the slave trade was most prominent you can count on people viewing slavery as a great means of gaining capital.

My opponent seems convinced that whomever decided to accept his challenge was actually going to be "for slavery". Absolutely ridiculous...

To con's request, SURE.
I wouldn't have a problem telling an African American that back when slavery was prominent, people weren't as morally in-tuned as we would like to think. In addition that slave owners and various southerners certainly praised slavery at the time.. A little thing called the civil war occurred for that particular reason..
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SUMMARY
- Con has not attacked any of my arguments.
- Con has posted a whopping two sentences in the entire debate so far.
- Con has not yet to post really any arguments, just a statement and a threat.
Debate Round No. 2
ollie342

Con

Slavery was bad. Just ask the slaves.
Shtookah

Pro

Unfortunately con couldn't find the time to articulate an argument.. Let along more than one or two sentences..

- Arguments continued, vote pro..
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by ollie342 6 years ago
ollie342
You cant even spell right..along??
Posted by dinokiller 6 years ago
dinokiller
Shtookah gave the stump a fatality xD

Anyway, they are trollers so dont bother them.
MasterDebater is also a troller.
Posted by Shtookah 6 years ago
Shtookah
For future references con you shouldn't vote in your own debates. I did that when I first joined DDO but I learned.
Posted by Shtookah 6 years ago
Shtookah
"PRO why did you debate a stump, they don't argue back you know....." I figured the topic would be quite interesting to "defend" and quite the challenge. Might as well pick up the easy win.
Posted by Deistdude90 6 years ago
Deistdude90
I initially screwed up the vote. My bad Shtookah.
Posted by joshuaXlawyer 6 years ago
joshuaXlawyer
Con debated like a true stump............ stumps don't talk much........ and they cant argue........mainly because the don't talk......PRO why did you debate a stump, they don't argue back you know.....
Posted by ollie342 6 years ago
ollie342
I'm a trol? Go fuck_ yourself
Posted by Pat 6 years ago
Pat
He's not going to. You should read some of his other debates. Pitiful. He doesn't really want to debate. You could even call him a troll, if this weren't also a social network.
Posted by ThatGuyWithAFace 6 years ago
ThatGuyWithAFace
I can only facepalm at how sad this debate is. I mean, what's the point of creating a debate if you aren't actually going to debate? Come on Con, make some points and adress Pro's arguments.
Posted by Shtookah 6 years ago
Shtookah
Haha my third argument makes me sound like a capitalist.
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