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CaeruleaTigris
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Arcanas
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Slytherin is the Superior Hogwarts House

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Started: 3/24/2015 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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CaeruleaTigris

Pro

Slytherins have everything you could ever need to get ahead of the rat race: intelligence, cunning, ambition, self-preservation and a belief that the end justifies the means. Slytherins help their own when prejudice keeps the other houses from wanting to help and because of this Slytherins have some of the most powerful connections in the Ministry which most are willing to share if it benefits them or just out of the kindness of their hearts (which they do have, by the way).

They do not pursue reckless adventures like the Gryffindors, whose bravery often gets them into fatal trouble. They do not focus entirely on gaining new and often useless information like the Ravenclaws, they instead focus on educating themselves only in the things that will help them in their futures. And unlike the Hufflepuffs, whose undying loyalty can get them drawn into needless conflicts, Slytherins are only friends with people who either are like them or who would not expect them to risk themselves in something they would not want to do.

Slytherin has been proud to house some of the greatest wizards and witches in history, including the great Merlin who is credited as being one of the most powerful wizards in history and who established the Order of Merlin, an organization that originally promoted muggle rights. Even the Slytherins who have turned out to be "dark" were often exceptionally powerful.

The house is famed for it's students who come from "old money" but they are merely a tiny portion of the demographic. In reality, Slytherin is made up of students from a colourful mixture of backgrounds ranging from disadvantaged children who built themselves up into something great to advantaged children who use their advantage in life for the benefit of themselves and others.

Slytherin is superior simply because Slytherins strive to be the best they can in every single aspect of their lives. And they succeed.
Arcanas

Con

Thank you Pro for instigating this debate.

Rebuttals:

"They do not pursue reckless adventures like the Gryffindors, whose bravery often gets them into fatal trouble"

Pro makes the claim that the bravery Gryffindors have will get them into trouble, however, he provides no evidence to support this, and is merely making a bare assertion. In addition to the lack of evidence, the books and movies in the Harry Potter series seem to indicate the opposite of what he says is true. Take for example, the House cup we observe in the first Harry Potter movie and book. Slytherin house had won the house cup, but Gryffindor was awarded extra points, due to their actions over the school year. This includes: Neville's courage/bravery, Ron's skillful chess match, Hermione's knowledge and excellent schoolwork, and Harry standing up to the dark lord. If anything, Gryffindor's bravery is beneficial to them as it leads to rewards and success.

Video of this scene in the first movie:

"They do not focus entirely on gaining new and often useless information like the Ravenclaws, they instead focus on educating themselves only in the things that will help them in their futures."

Ravenclaw House has proven to be very helpful and successful with their knowledge. What may seem useless can be extremely helpful at times, such as knowing about the lost diadem of Ravenclaw, a piece of knowledge that lead to the downfall of Voldemort.

"And unlike the Hufflepuffs, whose undying loyalty can get them drawn into needless conflicts, Slytherins are only friends with people who either are like them or who would not expect them to risk themselves in something they would not want to do."

Again, Pro fails to provide a source to back up his argument. Hufflepuff's loyalty has proved to actually help them and others as well. Taj effort example the final battle between Voldemort and Hogwarts. Surely, if Hogwarts was missing another quarter of the school (In addition to Slytherin refusing to help) many more students would have died.

"Slytherin has been proud to house some of the greatest wizards and witches in history, including the great Merlin who is credited as being one of the most powerful wizards in history and who established the Order of Merlin, an organization that originally promoted muggle rights"

Every House has had great Wizards and Witches, most notably
Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore, from Gryffindor (http://harrypotter.wikia.com...), and the various wizards from Hufflepuff (http://harrypotter.wikia.com...). Because the other houses share this, the point is irrelevant.

"Even the Slytherins who have turned out to be "dark" were often exceptionally powerful"

In addition to this, JK Rowling has stated in her book's that nearly every "dark wizard" or death eater, including Lord Voldemort himself, were from Slytherin House. This shows that Slytherin house contains the more sinister or cruel students, and even corrupting students, causing them to become fluent in dark arts. Regardless of whether they were powerful or nor, they're still evil, and cause large amounts of harm to society.

"The house is famed for it's students who come from "old money" but they are merely a tiny portion of the demographic. In reality, Slytherin is made up of students from a colourful mixture of backgrounds ranging from disadvantaged children who built themselves up into something great to advantaged children who use their advantage in life for the benefit of themselves and others"

We observe various types of students in the other houses as well, so it's completely irrelevant that Slytherin contains a little diversity.

Arguments:

Slytherin House is full of cowards, liars, and corrupt minds. Slytherin house constantly puts themselves and the rest of Hogwarts in tough places, whether it's refusing to help the rest of the school when it was attacked by the dark lord and his army (Resulting in a mass slaughtering of the students, which could have been less brutal with extra help), trying to stop Harry from getting to the lost diadem of Ravenclaw (http://harrypotter.wikia.com...) and even assisting lord Voldemort (Nearly all death eaters are from Slytherin House). Slytherin House is the worst house because of this, obviously refuting the notion that they're the "Superior House".

Conclusion:
Pro's arguments are not backed by any evidence and have been refuted. I've shown how his arguments contradict information within the actual books and movies, and how the information actually supports the notion that Gryffindor the is superior house as their bravery gets them many rewards, while Slytherin is probably the worst. Pro has essentially failed to prove that Slytherins have the best house.

Thanks for reading!
Debate Round No. 1
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Posted by Arcanas 2 years ago
Arcanas
Whoops. Sorry for calling you a guy, I'd edit it if I could. If you had evidence then you probably should have put it into your debate argument.
Posted by CaeruleaTigris 2 years ago
CaeruleaTigris
Well, merde, I admit defeat already. BUUUUUUUUUT just 'cause I forgot the evidence doesn't mean I don't have any. Also, I'm not a guy and I don't prefer male pronouns, so ,yeah.
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Vote Placed by tajshar2k 2 years ago
tajshar2k
CaeruleaTigrisArcanas
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Reasons for voting decision: Con refuted all of Pro's claims, and even gave evidence to why he/she thinks that Gryffindor is better than Slytherin. Pro should have made this debate more than 1 round, so he/she would have had a chance to refute some of Con's claims. Even though I strongly disagree with Con, they were the better debater.