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Grandzam
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jgsboy123
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Smokers can choose to stop smoking

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Grandzam
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/1/2016 Category: Health
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 373 times Debate No: 85876
Debate Rounds (3)
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Grandzam

Con

Smokers: People who inhale the smoke of a cigarette

Can: Have the potential to

Choose: Decide between several reasonable courses of action with free will

R1: Con makes debate, and Pro gives their opening argument.

R2: Con gives rebuttals and their opening argument, Pro defends arguments and rebutes Pro's arguments.

R3: No new arguments, both sides give more rebuttals.
jgsboy123

Pro

i smoke weed and i was lost i said i cant find my house where do i live i love weed im smoking right now jk but i love weed
Debate Round No. 1
Grandzam

Con

I forgot to include tobacco in the definition of smokers. Not like it matters because of my troll opponent though.

UPDATED DEFINITION OF SMOKERS: A person who smokes tobacco regularly.

With that out of the way, I will present an argument.

Some smokers are able to quit smoking, but it usually takes five to seven times on average to stop [1]. I argue that due to this, smokers cannot choose with free will to stop smoking, since the success rate is not 100%. Once a smoker decides to stop smoking (not choose), they have a slim chance of being able to stop for very long, because their free will is constrained by nicotine. This eliminates the ability of choice.

I want to say more but it would be a waste, considering my opponent.

References:

1. http://www.nature.com...
jgsboy123

Pro

jgsboy123 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
Grandzam

Con

Obviously, this is not a great topic.

I will show one more example to show what I mean, since the previous argument I made sounds ineffective in hindsight. Saying that smokers can choose to stop smoking is like saying that people can choose to roll a one every time on a dice. Obviously, a person can choose the kind of dice chosen, a five sided dice being more likely to get a one than a twenty sided dice. Likewise, a smoker can decide to put more effort into quitting. However, it is still pretty random whether they will be able to or not.

VOTE CON
jgsboy123

Pro

jgsboy123 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Grandzam 1 year ago
Grandzam
What are you trying to say, Max? I never said people shouldn't smoke or anything.
Posted by Max.Wallace 1 year ago
Max.Wallace
We enjoy nicotine as much as you love jogging or mountain climbing. Who the hell made you king, fool?
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Vote Placed by U.n 1 year ago
U.n
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Vote Placed by HSamei1999 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: 1 point for conduct as Pro forfeited. Pro didn't manage to post on time and so had poor conduct, whereas Con was on time.