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JeremyMcNamee
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DarkKnightretruns
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Smoking around/with children is child abuse.

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Started: 3/9/2013 Category: Society
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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JeremyMcNamee

Pro

This is an interesting topic. I will be debating that smoking around your children is child abuse due to the second hand smoke. This debate assumes that the parent is an average smoker who smokes in the car, home, etc. Therefore your stance cannot be, "well what if he just smokes outside." We will use the web definition of child abuse.

Web definitions

the physical or emotional or sexual mistreatment of children.
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

We will use the same for the definition of second hand smoke.

Web definitions

Passive smoking is the inhalation of smoke, called secondhand smoke (SHS) or environmental tobacco smoke (ETS), from tobacco products...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second-hand_smoke

First round is for acceptance only and any clarification of rules. I really look forward to this debate.
DarkKnightretruns

Con

A very invigorating topic this is indeed, but smoking is not considered child abuse. Second hand smoking is what comes to mind, when I see a child suffering from smoking. If you were to consider this second hand smoking as child abuse, why isn't it illegal overall? Why is it that smoking is ONLY considered child abuse? A jogger passes by and they catch smoke, so why is this not applicable there? That being said, I must state why I think that smoking is not considered child abuse.

On one hand, I do no mean to say that smoking is not abusive or a mistreatment of a children.

Child abuse is, by my opponent's definition, the physical, emotional, or sexual mistreatment of children. This can be applied to adults, because everyone is a child. Child abuse applies to neglecting as well as the age range being set at up to 18 years of age. If child abuse is to be started here, then what would it mean if the child was smoking alongside the parent at 17 or 18 years of age?
Debate Round No. 1
JeremyMcNamee

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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by JeremyMcNamee 4 years ago
JeremyMcNamee
Very upset I was away for this debate. I really wanted to do this.
Posted by CoachPetey 4 years ago
CoachPetey
The "con" argument mainly relies on what is "here and now" but society is dynamic, not static, and thus morals and laws are ever-changing. Con states, "If you were to consider this second hand smoking as child abuse, why isn't it illegal overall? Why is it that smoking is ONLY considered child abuse?"

Just because something is not illegal today does not mean that it won't be tomorrow. Not too long ago people could drive while using their cell phone, and now, in most states, that is illegal. Of course. not yet in Florida, but we live in a state where you can still ride a motorcycle without a helmet.

As for the second question from the con side, in most states it is indeed illegal to smoke in public places (ironically, once again not in Florida-- what's with this state?!). It is not called "child abuse" because the victims inhaling the secondhand smoke are adults. If you beat up someone over 18, it is assault and battery. If you beat up a child, it is called child abuse. Thus subjecting a child to secondhand smoke should be considered child abuse.

Here is what the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services defines as child abuse...

Any recent act or failure to act on the part of a parent or caretaker which results in death, serious physical or emotional harm, sexual abuse or exploitation; or
An act or failure to act which presents an imminent risk of serious harm.

The second bullet seems very clear in its wording that smoking around a child in an enclosed environment should be considered child abuse.

Thanks for listening and good luck to both sides. Have a great afternoon!
Posted by JeremyMcNamee 4 years ago
JeremyMcNamee
I've never heard of anyone calling ut child abuse
Posted by JOhn_D.5ilver 4 years ago
JOhn_D.5ilver
They only debate you are going to get is one where your opponent is just doing it for the slight opportunity you have left to counter it. For its interest value of not proving you wrong, but seeing if she/he can win. Almost looks like you just want an easy win.
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