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BMAN13
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APBUNDY
Con (against)

Socialism Is Garbage

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Started: 12/15/2017 Category: Politics
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BMAN13

Pro

There is no example of Socialism ever working as an economic system. While some aspects of it are admirable in theory, they cannot work in the real world.
APBUNDY

Con

I accept.

Socalism -- the economic and political theory theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole -- is not garbage.
To say garbage is to mean worthless or meaningless. In other words, of no real value or use.
By working, we mean of socialisms functionality being able to exist in the world.

BMAN13 claims there are admirable aspects of socialism, however he doesn"t believe socialism can work in real life.

Lets take a look at what many consider the most just and fair society in the world, North American civilization. In Canada there is Social Assistance, Child Tax Benefit, Old Age Security, Guaranteed Income Supplement, Employment Insurance, social services, and social housing among a myriad of other Socialist programs. In the United States of America there is Medicare, Housing Assistance, Supplemental Security Income, and the Child Nutrition Program among a tremendous number of other programs of this nature. Let"s not forget homeless shelters and other publicly funded aids which encompass socialist ideology"s as well. The above of which is listed is only a very small percentage of the socialist programs I"ve cited that are available to people, and which provides a "safety net" for society, a robust stability and not to be taken for granted assistance in even the most tough of times. These programs, the ones embedded in our society, hence intertwined in the culture of what many consider the most just and fair society in the world, are examples of socialism functioning in the real world. So to say that socialism can not function in the real world, is simply not true.

The other claim made by BMAN13 is there are no examples of Socialism ever working as an economic system. Today, modern day, we have 4 fully Marxist-Leninist societies. Let"s take a look at 2 for the sake of succinctness. China is a socialist country and has been for 68 years. Until 2015, China was one of the worlds fastest growing economies [1]. Today it"s the worlds second largest economy [2]. Therefore, we have one of the most functional economies that has been flourishing of nearly 70 years as an example of a fully working Socialist system.

Lets take a look at our second example of a functioning socialist society, Cuba. Cuba has been fully economically socialist for 51 years [3]. There"s free education among a conglomerate of other subsidies.

Lets us keep in mind this isn"t a debate of the good or bad of socialism, nor a debate of capitalism vs socialism. The assertion that there are no examples of socialism ever working as an economic system has been debunked because we have information that current (we haven"t even mentioned past or future) functioning socialist society"s do in fact exist. Adjacent to this point of socialism existing and functioning in the real world, we can clearly see North America encompasses as well as greatly benefits from the Socialist programs implemented in the society.

Having proven Socialism exists and is functioning in the real world, it appears to be a closed case.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org...
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