The Instigator
UtherPenguin
Con (against)
Losing
2 Points
The Contender
TheJuniorVarsityNovice
Pro (for)
Winning
10 Points

Socialism is an overall a better system than Capitalism (Devil's Advocate debate)

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TheJuniorVarsityNovice
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/14/2015 Category: Economics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 1,046 times Debate No: 71467
Debate Rounds (3)
Comments (7)
Votes (4)

 

UtherPenguin

Con

DEBATE IMPOSSIBLE TO ACCEPT, READ THE RULES BELOW AND THEN PM OR COMMENT ME IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THIS DEBATE.

This is a devil's advocate debate, since I am of Socialistic leanings I have decided to play devil's advocate and debate on the side of Con, I expect Pro to do the same meaning that if they are of Capitalist or Conservative leanings then they shall debate on the side of Pro.

The variant of Socialism that my opponent debates for is up to them as long as it does not touch on Communism (since most arguments against communism are exclusive to communism and cannot be melded as to be the same as ones argument against Socialism)

Terms (If Con finds terms to be unrealistic or inaccurate then he may change them but only with an argument as to why):

Overall: With multiple factors being taken into account.

Socialism: A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Capitalism: An economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled mostly by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

Better: Comparably good or well.

Format:

Round 1: Acceptance of Terms

Round 2: Opening Arguments

Round 3: Rebuttals

Round 4: Counter-rebuttals/Conclusive arguments
TheJuniorVarsityNovice

Pro

I accept with the understanding that burden of proof is shared and I look forward to an interesting debate! -TheJuniorVarsityNovice
Debate Round No. 1
UtherPenguin

Con

Apologies but I may have to forfeit the debate for the reasons below:

1. I accidentally made the debate 3 rounds when the intended format of the debate would only work with four rounds.

2, I originally intended the arguments to take 72 hours to complete as I did not have enough time to make and finish an argument in 42 hours.

Due to this forfeit Pro therefore wins by default.
TheJuniorVarsityNovice

Pro

I would like to thank UtherPenguin for his selflessness in regonizing his mistake, something many debaters would not do. Although the round thing isnt really a problem for me, I understand how time can be a pressing issue. If UtherPenguin really wishes to forfeit, I am fine with that, hopefully however we can have a rematch under better terms. With the best regards

-TheJuniorVarsityNovice
Debate Round No. 2
UtherPenguin

Con

I plan to make a rematch debate sometime this Friday.
TheJuniorVarsityNovice

Pro

The rematch sounds like it will be interesting, and once again have a good night/day. Signing off

-JVN
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by TheJuniorVarsityNovice 1 year ago
TheJuniorVarsityNovice
what Is character limit, is this evidence based. I would prefer not but I'm good either wat. I'm going to argue that socialism promoted equality...ect and that it is thus better than the disadvantages brought through capitalism. Assign me as opponent really quickly if you want to start debating.
Posted by WillYouMarryMe 1 year ago
WillYouMarryMe
I wanna debate you on your actual views haha
Posted by StalinIncarnate 1 year ago
StalinIncarnate
Fair enough.
Posted by UtherPenguin 1 year ago
UtherPenguin
@StalinIncarnate

In actuality I have very socialistic leanings but I am playing devil's advocate in this debate so I will be arguing from the Capitalist side.
Posted by StalinIncarnate 1 year ago
StalinIncarnate
Wait, so are you for or against Socialism?(In terms of debate).
Posted by UtherPenguin 1 year ago
UtherPenguin
@Varrack

This is a devil's advocate debate, the sides are switched since both debaters are to play the role of Devil's Advocate
Posted by Varrack 1 year ago
Varrack
Conservatives/Capitalists actually side with the Con side of the debate, not Pro.
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Reasons for voting decision: Con forfeited.
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Reasons for voting decision: Concession by Con to Pro for the default win.
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Reasons for voting decision: Concession, good luck with your rematch debate though!
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Reasons for voting decision: Gracious concession by CON. I gave conduct to CON, as I think is customary in concessions. Obviously this doesn't at all mean that PRO had bad conduct, but rather I view it as a gesture to award CON for actually conceding in lieu of forfeiting every round.