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I will be arguing that this is indeed the case while my opponent will be arguing that there exists a world outside your own mind. This is meant as a light hearted debate but lets try and keep it at least vaguely logical.
Also please make sure you are available within the time constraints as you have 30 mins to post your argument.
Thank you and I look forward to my opponents thoughts.
If that were the case then merely thinking something would be good enough to cause it to come into existance.
Our thoughts can influence our environment through the actions they lead us to take, but you can not for example teleport yourself to Mars, move objects with your mind, or shift to an alternative dimension. Ergo, the mind is not all that there is. That there exists physical matter that can not be altered by just willing it to means there is more than mind.
That people get caught up at times by things in their environment emotionally is also good evidence that there isn't just the mind as that is coming into the mind. You could call where it comes from the "spirit".
Regardless of whether there is or is not a God a person has a mind, body, and spirit and trying to treat one as though it controlled the others is a recipe for insanity. Solipsism is not just a flawed argument, it is a dangerous one.
Could it not be that there is not a mind that exists strong enough to be capable exorcise such effects like moving objects with your mind. Or in this case, since I speaking from my own point of view, I have not been able to create a mind capable of doingsuch tasks. How can I even be sure that I am not simply someone that has been created out of the mind of another and am at the complete mercy of that mind? How do I know that you have not been created by that very same mind?
Can we ever really be sure that this life is real? No because we have no absolute philisophical definition for what real is.
Take the film "Inception" for example. At the end we never do find out wether they made it out of the dream world they had created. Once they believed it to be the "real world" that would be them stuck.
How can we be sure that we havn't got stuck?
MasturDbtor forfeited this round.
Even if you believe my points are rubbish please have the common courtesy to at least rebut them and take a win.
Just extend my argument for this round.
1. If a mind is incapable of doing things like moving objects by just willing it there must by definition exist a thing responsible for that fact.
2. If you were created by and controlled by another mind that would still leave the question of how to explain the limitations of that other mind, and the mechanism of control it has on your mind. And it would have limitations by definition, because there must be a set of explanations for why it has chosen to control you in one way and not another.
3. "Can we ever really be sure that this life is real? No because we have no absolute philisophical definition for what real is."
This is a purely semantic argument and could be argued over any and all concepts that are represented by words. It is practical to assume some common definition of the word real, because otherwise it would be a useless word. To most people experience is real, so experiencing life makes it ipso facto real.
4. If we are "stuck" that fact will not be relevant unless and until we become "unstuck", because there are no consequences as far as human experience if we never were to find out, hence meaning for all practical purposes we can assume we are not stuck until there is significant evidence to the contrary.
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