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Some cases of Turture are minamally, morally acceptable

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Started: 11/19/2014 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Banksi

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(1). Torture is to inflict server pain on, either mentally or physically for the purpose of breaking their will.
(2). Psychological forms of torture and ill-treatment, which very often have the most long-lasting consequences for victims, commonly include: isolation, threats, humiliation, mock executions, and witnessing the torture of others.
(3). Some cases of torture are due to extreme emergencies.
(4). Torture can be considered an effective form of punishment in some instances.
(5). Killing can be considered and effective form of punishment in some instances.
(6). Morality is the distinction between what"s permissible and impermissible in respect to harm.
(7). People consider some killing moral but contrary to killing, torture can sometimes be brief and one being tortured can live their life after, where as a person killed cannot.
(8). There are acts of extreme emergencies where it is acceptable to torture someone because the well being of another individual or society is at stake.
(9). The level of morality of torture depends on what"s at stake.
(10). Torture that is minimally, morally accepted comes down to who"s well being will be more greatly affected, the society as a whole, or the individual being tortured.
(11). Around 911, Many individuals thought to be in terrorist groups were tortured in hope to get information that could possibly lead to us knowing more information about the terrorist group Al Qaida, which would lead to provide justice for America.
(12). What"s acceptable is what is tolerated and approved by majority.

Therefore, there are some cases of torture are minimally, morally acceptable.
blueivycarter

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1.Torture is to inflict severe pain on some non-consenting defenseless, but the purpose does not need to be, breaking their will, and the torture does not necessarily have to be mental or physical.
2.Psychological forms of torture and ill-treatment have long-lasting effects, which very often have the most long-lasting consequences for victims, commonly include: isolation, threats, humiliation, mock executions and witnessing the torture of others. The consequences listed are not examples of minimalist torture.
3.There are no acceptable cases of torture due to extreme emergencies because they are not minimally, morally acceptable.
4.Just as torture can be considered an effective form of punishment in some instances, it can also be considered ineffective.
5.Killing is not an effective form of punishment because ultimately the non-consenting defenseless is killed and the now purpose of the torture is null and void.
6.Morality is the distinction between what"s permissible and impermissible in respect to harm.
7.Killing ends someone"s life, while torture can just put a person"s life at stake, but killing and torture cannot be considered moral because torture ethically wrong, and what is ethical is moral.
8.There are no extreme emergencies where it is ever acceptable to torture someone. Even during an extreme emergency there are moral ways to go about saving an individual or a society at stake.
9.The level of morality is not dependent on what is at stake. The two are irrelevant from one another. If torture is being committed regardless of what is at stake, the morality level is negligent at that point.
10.Torture that is minimally, morally accepted does not come down to who is being more affected. By definition, minimalistic torture is dependent on the victim"s will being broken temporarily.
11.Yes, many individuals believed that torturing terrorist groups would lead to information about Al Qaida, but that does not mean the torture is minimally, morally acceptable.
12.The word acceptable, by definition is able to be agreed on; suitable. The term acceptable has nothing to do with tolerance or being approved by majority.
13.Whether torture is minimalist or maximalist, temporary or long-term, no form of torture is morally acceptable.

14.Therefore, there are no cases of torture that are minimally, morally acceptable.
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