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chiwawatang
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Some feminists take it too far

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/12/2008 Category: Society
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Debater2008

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I think feminists were right in protesting for women to have equal rights. We thank them for that. However, there are some feminists who take it too far. If you hold a door open for one of them, or press the button for them in the lift, they are enraged. "I can do it myself!" they say. It has nothing to do with you not being able to do it, its just common politeness. A man will hold the door for a man. Why do they feel as if they cannot ever be helped, even when the one who wants to help isn't trying to undermine them?
chiwawatang

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even though I am not against it, this should be fun...

Well... For females, they are really just getting more and more aggressive, they just put it in another way. Even though it's nice having rights, it also makes us work harder in some areas. I find that it would have been easier without some rights like not having to work. If you say that we females had to tidy up then, well, my mum still vacuums, washes dishes and all that type of stuff, AND she works, so whats the difference?
Debate Round No. 1
Debater2008

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You argument is very weak. Some sentaces don't even make sense, you don't justify your opinions and some things you have included are irrelevant.

< they just put it in another way>>

Firstly, this statement doesn't even make sense. What does put it another way mean? And put what? And why do you say that women are getting more aggressive, on what do you base this theory?

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I don't understand what you mean by this. Having rights means enables you to do certain things, not forces you to do them.

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it also makes us work harder in some areas. I find that it would have been easier without some rights like not having to work>>

Like I stated above, a right doesn't force you to do something, it gives you the choice.

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How is this at all related to feminists taking it too far? This is completely irrelevant to the argument. Also, I don't understand what you are saying. Whats the difference; between what and what?
chiwawatang

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Firstly, I agree, I guess my point is weak. We all may all have rights, but it does make us go to work and all that stuff, I may not have a job yet, but when I was younger, my mum gave up work to look after me. A friend said "You have to work, otherwise you'll have no money." Back then, none of the woman had jobs. Its now become a custom for the woman to work.
When I said that woman are just getting more aggressive, they just put it another way, I meant it. Its just not like wrestling wioth another person, its pretty much verbal abuse. It has just gone to far because of our rights wich enables us to act like men pretty much. Anyway, I have never seen anyone being so rude like the way you put it. Everyone says thank you around me. Maybe it also depends on where you are at.

Sorry for presenting a weak argument. I'm kind of a beginner.
Debate Round No. 2
Debater2008

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How many times to I have to point this out? A right ALLOWS you to do something, NOT MAKES YOU DO IT.

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How is this related to this argument? Read the title 'Some feminists take it too far'. Your argument is supposed to be 'Some feminists do not take it too far'. You have to think what you are debating about.

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She was right in saying that, but again, what does this have to do with my argument?

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I don't know whether you mean that it's normal for a women to work, or that many women work, but 1) It doesn't mean you HAVE TO do it and 2) What does this have to do with the argument?

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I don't care whether you meant it or not. I need proof, I need reasoning, I need a justification.

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So you are saying that over time women have began to verbally abuse each other more? Perhaps there is a slight increase of verbal abuse in society, but it is sexists and unjustified to state it is only women who are becoming more aggressive. Also, you have to state in which way women are beginning to act like men.

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I actually think you are joking. This is not related and barely makes sense!

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As if that is a justification! I am a beginner also, I joined the site 5 days ago!
chiwawatang

Con

chiwawatang forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Debater2008 9 years ago
Debater2008
Sorry about that. I'm not usually aggressive but for some reason this debate aggravated me.
Posted by miroslava 9 years ago
miroslava
debater2008.. the only think that makes you a beginner is your agression.. tone it down a little
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