The Instigator
FanboyMctroll
Pro (for)
The Contender
What50
Con (against)

Sons of Solidarity

Do you like this debate?NoYes+1
Add this debate to Google Add this debate to Delicious Add this debate to FaceBook Add this debate to Digg  
Debate Round Forfeited
What50 has forfeited round #3.
Our system has not yet updated this debate. Please check back in a few minutes for more options.
Time Remaining
00days00hours00minutes00seconds
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/27/2017 Category: People
Updated: 7 months ago Status: Debating Period
Viewed: 364 times Debate No: 105351
Debate Rounds (5)
Comments (11)
Votes (0)

 

FanboyMctroll

Pro

The Sons of Solidarity is recruiting new members for their group of debating intellectuals. We stand stronger together!!!

As the President of The Sons of Solidarity I would like to take the time to provide my platform for new members that want to join The Sons of Solidarity and provide some information on my back ground.

As a true Patriot I believe in America and it's core values with few exceptions (amendment 2) (anti immigration) stand by your fellow citizens, do not be politically correct to appease someone else. Believe in yourself and your views, do not change yourself.

The Sons of Solidarity key points are

- to uphold free speech but not hate speech against any other races, genders

- Pro Choice

- For the Death Penalty

- Anti gun laws

- Anti Religion

- Anti Communism

All members must be of sound mind, mental illness and religious views will not be tolerated and those members will be expelled.

The Sons of Solidarity neither promotes or encourages any violence by members of it's group.
What50

Con

Hello I will present my arguments on why you should not The Sons of Solidarity.

- to uphold free speech but not hate speech against any other races, genders
As such his first point already conflicts with his "free speech". In quotes "All members must be of sound mind, mental illness and religious views will not be tolerated and those members will be expelled." For a group that advocate's for free speech they don't tolerate people with religious views? Lets compare this group to The Broterhood. The only rules are change your profile picture to a Brotherhood symbol, respect each others opinion, and follow the terms of service set by DDO.

To even join this group you must fulfill all their prerequisites. Even if you have a different opinion on these topics you can't even join this group. This shows they are not inclusive. Look at The Brotherhood we are the most broad group with the belief that everyone has the right to free speech without prejudice towards them or their ideas.

The Sons of Solidarity are very prejudice to the mental ill, and religious people. They aren't even allowed to share their idea nor be accepted into the group which shows they are not for the members of DDO.

"stand by your fellow citizens, do not be politically correct to appease someone else. Believe in yourself and your views, do not change yourself". I ask the voters if this group is all about believing in yourself and your political views how come they have to have core values and even denying peoples opinions such as religious and communist ideology to not be accepted. If someone wants to join this group they will have to change their ideology which is I am sure not the President would wanted.

I urge everyone to join The Brotherhood. We value Freedom of speech, we want to spread every ideology and not to hate it or even despite it but respect your fellow humans on their ideology. Instead of basing prejudices against people talk to them, learn their ideology and form your own opinion, this is what The Brotherhood stand for please vote Con!
Debate Round No. 1
FanboyMctroll

Pro

I would like to take the time to thank The Brotherhood in joining me in this campaigning debate.

To solidify our stance as a legitimate and viable party to join, The Sons of Solidarity would like to take the time to show our future members our code of conduct and our Charter of Constitution showing we are transparent and we support all members. Like any party we do have limitations and at Sons of Solidarity we do not tolerate religious rhetoric or religious views. We also have a firm stand on Communism. We oppose it 100%.

Without further delay here is our Charter of Constitution

1.The Sons of Solidarity guarantee rights and freedoms to all it"s members as justified by a free demographic society where communism is shunned upon.
2.The Sons of Solidarity are entitled to freedom of thought, belief, opinions on DDO, and peaceful association
3.Every The Sons of Solidarity member has the right to vote on any debate/topic pending with the group
4.The Sons of Solidarity is governed by the President and founder Fanboy McTroll, all final conflicts and resolutions will be mediated and acted on by the President of The Sons of Solidarity
5.The Sons of Solidarity president will attend debates at least once every 6 months.
6.Every member of The Sons of Solidarity has the right to resign, quit or leave The Sons of Solidarity group at any time they feel justified for any reason without being discriminated against.
7.The Sons of Solidarity believes in life for all human beings and are against any speech encouraging genocide, murder outside of the law, turning of people into pig feed, or showing hatred to any race or religion, ie. Jewish people, Black people, Asian people or any other race or culture.
8.The Sons of Solidarity believes in all laws governing all countries they are instilled in. We do not encourage or break laws or perform any illegal operations of any kind.
9.Religion of any kind is not to be encouraged or used as a method of debate. The Sons of Solidarity view religion as a form of mental weakness and consider it a form of a weak minded individual. These type individuals have no place at The Sons of Solidarity as religion does not factor into any decision or life at The Sons of Solidarity. We strive for strong intellectual minds focused on careers, future and optimistic view of life.
10.Communism is considered evil by The Sons of Solidarity, anyone sympathetic to Russia, China, or any other communist nation is subject to banishment from The Sons of Solidarity. Communism should be taken down and destroyed, and any communist people should be viewed as the worst lying enemy combatants that should be eliminated.
What50

Con

Thank you Mr. Fanboy.
Mr. Fanboy admitted to the prejudice of Religious people in his group.
"Religion of any kind is not to be encouraged or used as a method of debate. The Sons of Solidarity view religion as a form of mental weakness and consider it a form of a weak minded individual. These type individuals have no place at The Sons of Solidarity as religion does not factor into any decision or life at The Sons of Solidarity. We strive for strong intellectual minds focused on careers, future and optimistic view of life."
This shows Mr. Fanboy holds a over generalization that all people who follow Religion are weak minded individual. Do you really want to join a group that doesn't even allow it's members to express different ideas, a group that shuns individuals that hold a different belief about Religion? Look at Mr.Fanboy idea towards people with Communistic ideas or even sympathetic to any Communist idea. He wants to silenced, deny the freedom of speech of these people who hold a different opinion of Mr.Fanboy. He even holds an over generalization toward Communistic people as lying, and should be eliminated? I must ask you do you wanna join a Radical Group that believes Communistic people should be eliminated for holding a different opinion?

The Sons of Solidarity even breaks their own rules. "7.The Sons of Solidarity believes in life for all human beings and are against any speech encouraging genocide, murder outside of the law, turning of people into pig feed, or showing hatred to any race or religion, ie. Jewish people, Black people, Asian people or any other race or culture."
Mr.Fanboy by denying religious people, showing them as weak minded individuals you have broke your own rule against showing hatred towards their Religion. The same thing can apply to people who are Communist since it is their culture, by showing they want to eliminate Communistic people they hate their culture. The hypocrisy of the group is very obvious.

I urge the people to think, do you wanna join a radical group that shows prejudice against Communistic people, mentally ill, and Religious folks? Do you wanna join a group that breaks their own rules? I know I wouldn't. But there is another option. The Brotherhood will defend and respect your freedom of speech. No matter how unpopular, or how much we personally disagree with it we will respect it and defend it.
Debate Round No. 2
FanboyMctroll

Pro

Lets address all the issues brought up by The Brotherhood.

As societies move away from religion, with almost 40% of the world population not aligning themselves with any religion, our society is becoming more intelligent and science is driving our civilization further and further, than the almost 1900 years of stone age dominated religious society of the past. Religion is a coping skill for the weak. The Sons of Solidarity align themselves as strong independent leaders who believe in science and innovation not some man made up invisible entity that they feel obligated to worship.

As for Communism, this is the worst form of political government and it has failed miserably in all countries where it dominates. People who are communists are just lying, lazy worthless, pathetic individuals who have no desire to achieve anything great in life and are just there for the free bread and vodka that communism guarantees. The Sons of Solidarity do not have room for people like that in their organization.

Charter of Constitution rule 7 is in place to respect people of other cultures and religions and races. Just because the Sons of Solidarity does not necessarily align themselves with these groups, does not mean we should discriminate against them. Yes the Sons of Solidarity does not accept religious people or communists but it doesn't mean other people should not co-exist in society. Just like The Brotherhood, The Sons of Solidarity accepts other party groups and has no issues with them and welcomes their input into any conversation. Religious and Communist people will always exist and The Sons of Solidarity acknowledges these groups we just don't accept them in our group.

Like any group/organization/club/party, The Sons of Solidarity clearly outlines all the groups goals, intentions and motives and clearly outlines items of concern. Like any group or person there will always be items that people do not agree with, nobody can be 100% loved and agreed with. The Sons of Solidarity is clear and concise in their goals as a group and does not tried to hide behind the fact that their members are former Nazi's or members of Ayrian Nation as is the case with The Brotherhood. The Brotherhood will try to charm you with warm welcoming comments but once you join, you will have to change your avatar to one and the same logo as all members, (in the past it was skinheads logo) You will have to follow strict racist rules and align yourself with racist comments made by their senior members.

The Sons of Solidarity does not do that, we just want people of sound logical mind who want to be part of a group that is mentally superior without issues and is not a communist member, those are all the limitations to this group.

I would like to see The Brotherhoods rules of conduct/constitution/rules. Why would anyone want to join The Brotherhood???
This round has not been posted yet.
Debate Round No. 3
This round has not been posted yet.
This round has not been posted yet.
Debate Round No. 4
This round has not been posted yet.
This round has not been posted yet.
Debate Round No. 5
11 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 10 records.
Posted by FanboyMctroll 7 months ago
FanboyMctroll
And I win the debate, due to the contender what50 forfeiting.

Sons of Solidarity is a better party to be associated with.

Case closed
Posted by What50 7 months ago
What50
Note: He said Former. That means I reformed, and become a new person.
Posted by FanboyMctroll 7 months ago
FanboyMctroll
So you are saying, you were a Nazi then? Is that correct? We have it on record then.

Folks join The Sons of Solidarity, The Brotherhood has former Nazi associations.

Vote for Sons of Solidarity in this debate
Posted by What50 7 months ago
What50
The only known people who were members of the National Socialist German Party was me, but I left that group.
Posted by FanboyMctroll 7 months ago
FanboyMctroll
It has com to my attention that The Brotherhood is a splinter cell party with members being former members of National Socialist German Workers' Party. And this is no joke, the president of The Brotherhood, Masterful has admitted to having associations with the National Socialist German Workers' Party. These are the former NAZI party members.
Posted by FanboyMctroll 7 months ago
FanboyMctroll
Just like to let future possible members know, that I am very familiar with The Brotherhood, they also have a Manifesto, now to me a Manifesto is something a serial killer or a terrorist writes, like the Unibomber.

At Sons of Solidarity we have an actual Charter of Constitution not a undercover Nazi disguised manifesto.
Posted by FanboyMctroll 7 months ago
FanboyMctroll
Join The Sons of Solidarity. We debate in a logical right wing manner without being politically correct.

You can read our Charter of Constitution just posted
Posted by iwhit29 7 months ago
iwhit29
im with you brother
Posted by FanboyMctroll 7 months ago
FanboyMctroll
Neither, Anarchist!!
Posted by iwhit29 7 months ago
iwhit29
democrat or republican?
This debate has 4 more rounds before the voting begins. If you want to receive email updates for this debate, click the Add to My Favorites link at the top of the page.