The Instigator
spiderman12345
Pro (for)
Winning
7 Points
The Contender
michaelmatt21
Con (against)
Losing
0 Points

Spiderman could beat Batman

Do you like this debate?NoYes+1
Add this debate to Google Add this debate to Delicious Add this debate to FaceBook Add this debate to Digg  
Post Voting Period
The voting period for this debate has ended.
after 2 votes the winner is...
spiderman12345
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/19/2014 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 1,159 times Debate No: 44268
Debate Rounds (4)
Comments (12)
Votes (2)

 

spiderman12345

Pro

Of course he could

Spiderman
spider senses
web packed strength
wall climbing
speed
strength
power
agility
endurance
spider crawling
web selection
Batman
Master of stealth
Master of martial arts
Gadget man
Great hand o hand combat
Escape artist
Gears and suits
Gliding
Baterang
Those are the skills and I want you to go first
michaelmatt21

Con

I feel that batman would outsmart spiderman. Of course batman does not have superpowers but he is a master inventor with enough money to create devices that could jam spider mans spider sense or web shooters and . Batman also seems to have more experience with crime fighting than the young peter parker. In the stories he is a master fighter than can adapt to any fighting type. Peter Parker seems that he would not be up for such a formidable challenge
Debate Round No. 1
spiderman12345

Pro

Money does not become the outcome in battle. It is your skills and looking at the skills I listed. If these two do not know each other how will batman even be able to build a machine in the heat of battle. About the thing you said about out smarting spiderman no offence but it is not true.
Spiderman is a genius also called a nerd.
You cant tell me that Batman can out smart a genius. Ok my argument

Why spiderman would win
1. Strength
Spiderman has so much strength that he is able to lift heavy items compare d to batman. Also his web shooters are filled with strength. This is the reason when spiderman battles his opponents are not able to break free out of his web stun. This makes Spiderman"s power increase. The more power the more strength.

Senses
Batman"s main ability is stealth. If batman tried to launch a sneak attack Spiderman could easily sense the attack and batman would not be able to sneak up on him.

Fighting technique
Spiderman has battle against the advanced and other advanced fighters. Which shows that he has more experience in battle and more intelligence. He has also took down a dinosaur

Speed
Spiderman has super human speed and batman is only a mere human so this counts that spiderman will be able to dodge the batterang instantly and will be able to have the advantage

Spiderman has no weakness
The only reason batman took down superman because he cheated and he called green arrow to shoot kryptonite.

I will refute your stuff next round
michaelmatt21

Con

Money defiantly does effect the outcome of a battle. More technologically advanced missiles and guns will win the war against bows and arrows. Bruce Wayne would be able to command far more resources than that of Peter Parker from a multibillionaire to a reporters salary.

As of building the technology in the heat of battle that is not what i meant at all. Batman keeps advanced records of all heroes and villains. HE would defiantly read up on your friend Spidey and develop the necessary gadgets to defeat him. For example: a sonic transmitter to disrupt Spidermans thought process and spider sense. A specific electronic device that would short out his web shooters (all hypothetical of course). WIthout those 2 key attributes a standing toe-to-toe battle would occur and Batman, master of all forms of combat would take Spiderman with ease.

I concur that Spiderman would still have superior agility but it takes more than that to win a fight over Batman.
Debate Round No. 2
spiderman12345

Pro

Con
Money defiantly does effect the outcome of a battle. More technologically advanced missiles and guns will win the war against bows and arrows. Bruce Wayne would be able to command far more resources than that of Peter Parker from a multibillionaire to a reporters salary.

Your proof? I could have 100000000000000 $$$ and still lose in a fight. And are you saying just because batman has lots of money he could beat harder foes like
Spawn
Superman
Wonder women
Flash
If you think he could beat hulk just because he has 10000000$$ you need to check again. This shows that my opponents statement is not true.


Batman keeps advanced records of all heroes and villains. HE would defiantly read up on your friend Spidey and develop the necessary gadgets to defeat him. For example: a sonic transmitter to disrupt Spidermans thought process and spider sense. A specific electronic device that would short out his web shooters (all hypothetical of course

The only way batman can keep record only unless if they were in the DC realm and Spiderman is in the Marvel realm so their is no way Batman can research Spiderman because he does not exist in DC

And Spiderman does not need web shooters to win he can shoot webs even if he is without them those web shooters pack extra power to his webs.

). WIthout those 2 key attributes a standing toe-to-toe battle would occur and Batman, master of all forms of combat would take Spiderman with ease

Who told you that. Spiderman also as battle with advanced aspects of people and Batman is another advance martial artist so if Spiderman can take down advanced martial artist Spidy would win. Also Spiderman has hand to hand combat and also does not need webs to win all he needs is his spidy sense, his agility, speed, and strength.


I concur that Spiderman would still have superior agility but it takes more than that to win a fight over Batman

I know where your getting your info. You are getting it from the batman vs superman battle. You think Batman can take down others with super speed because he took down Superman. Let me tell you that Batman used a kryptonite arrow from green arrow. Which shows it was a 2 vs 1 fight. Batman has no chance against
Hulk- fast
Flash- fast
Spiderman- fast
If you cant keep up with them how do you expect to win a fight or lay a finger on the person


Case closed your turn
michaelmatt21

Con

-is no way Batman can research Spiderman because he does not exist in DC

then how can they fight? Hypothetically they must exist in the same universe for them to fight. Therefore spiderman is no secret and batman would be able to research him

Another thing, unbeknownst to us Batman deduced the secret identity of Superman. Are you saying that he cannot do the same with spider mans? Spiderman would have no clue who Batman was. Based on this information Batman can chose the right moment to attack Spidey wether it be his first or second, or even third meeting. Using his unlimited resources and knowledge of his identity or not. Batman could meet him on his own terms. At peter parkers house for example if he knew the identity of course. For example: a well placed sonic device shorting out his spider sense and a smoke bomb concealing him BAtman would take Spidey out in seconds. A goo could keep him in his tracks as to reduce his superior agility. Even if he did not need web shooters you cannot hit what you cannot see or sense.

-I could have 100000000000000 $$$ and still lose in a fight. And are you saying just because batman has lots of money he could beat harder foes?

NO it is HOW YOU USE IT. If any government were given 1 million dollars and another government $200,000 to fight a war and ...Who would be at a superior disadvantage?

-Batman is another advance martial artist so if Spiderman can take down advanced martial artist Spidy would win.

Batman is no where near an advanced martial artist. He has a photographic memory that he can memorize all the techniques, he has spent his whole life learning and perfecting these arts, and has traveled to desolate locations to learn all he can about martial arts. There is no mention at ALL that spidey has anywhere near the same training or dedication as Batman.

-ex,
he could beat harder foes like
Spawn
Superman
Wonder women
Flash

This debate was on Spidey vs Batman and you constantly feel the need to bring other heroes and villains into it. Stick with Spidey vs. Batman please.
Debate Round No. 3
spiderman12345

Pro


is no way Batman can research Spiderman because he does not exist in DC

then how can they fight? Hypothetically they must exist in the same universe for them to fight. Therefore Spiderman is no secret and batman would be able to research him

They can be in either realm but what I mean by doesn't exist in Dc is like you said batman can just research him up easily. He basically cannot research his opponent easily. If Spiderman even wanted to come into the DC realm he would not even know who Spiderman is unless they met and of course if they met they would start the fight and you cant research while in battle. And if your saying he should research Spiderman why not give Spiderman the advantage to do so also? Giving Spidy enough time to research he would know how to prepare for any move Batman does in battle.


Spiderman would have no clue who Batman was. Based on this information Batman can chose the right moment to attack Spidey wether it be his first or second, or even third meeting. Using his unlimited resources and knowledge of his identity or not. Batman could meet him on his own terms. At peter parkers house for example if he knew the identity of course. For example: a well placed sonic device shorting out his spider sense and a smoke bomb concealing him Batman would take Spidey out in seconds. A goo could keep him in his tracks as to reduce his superior

Another outrageous statement made by my opponent. True Spiderman does not know who Bruce Wayne. Your statement is entirely false Batman wouldn't know Spiderman identity or where Spiderman's house is even if he researched it. The only people that know his identity are the villains in Spiderman and his friends. And I doubt Batman knows any of Spiderman's friends and of course he wouldn't even ask the villains who is Spiderman under the mask. Basically Batman would not even be able to make a device to stop Spiderman's Spidy senses. Also Batman's main gadgets

- Battering's
- Explosives
- Gear and suits
- Smoke bombs
- Sonic boom
- Bat call
- Bat mobile vehicle
Those are the main tools he mainly uses and there are no tools to show how Batman could easily get a bomb and take away his spidy senses. And you said seconds you said he would take him out in seconds. There is no way has he has ever took down anyone in seconds.

NO it is HOW YOU USE IT. If any government were given 1 million dollars and another government $200,000 to fight a war and ...Who would be at a superior disadvantage?
You said I was off topic?? You said I stated other heroes but look who is talking about a war and military and money does not change the outcome of the battle. Basically you are saying since Batman has 100000000$$$ to buy any gear and make any gear your also stating he could beat

- Flash
- Wolverine
- Superman
- Sentry
- Franklin Richards
-Deadpool
And there is a big list of heroes he cant defeat and your saying since he has 1000000$$$ he can beat anyone and you also think money changes the outcome of a battle. So if had 1000000$$ and someone like Mrs. Marvel and I couldn't fight her because I was weak I would have no chance against her.


ex,
he could beat harder foes like
Spawn
Superman
Wonder women
Flash

This debate was on Spidey vs Batman and you constantly feel the need to bring other heroes and villains into it. Stick with Spidey vs. Batman please.
Debate Round No. 3

I have to bring it up sorry but I have to bring them up because you state money changes the out come of a battle. So you are stating that he could defeat all characters listed above.
And you weren't on topic either

Were waiting for your next argument and your statements were refuted
michaelmatt21

Con

-Your statement is entirely false Batman wouldn't know Spiderman identity or where Spiderman's house is even if he researched it.

You are forgetting 2 main things entirely my friend. The bat-computer is no ordinary computer as it is the main source of advice for batman in solving cases entirely in the books and movies. Secondly another thing that I cannot stress enough is that Batman is a MASTER DETECTIVE. To say that Batman cannot find out Spiderman's identity is under.

-If Spiderman even wanted to come into the DC realm he would not even know who Spiderman is unless they met and of course if they met they would start the fight and you cant research while in battle.

You insist that everything will happen in one battle it seems. Maybe you should have clarified the topic more. Of course you will not research during battle. AFTER THE BATTLE is what is important. Say Batman lost... he now will realize the full extent of Spiderman's powers. SPIDERMAN'S POWERS CANNOT CHANGE.

-Battering's
- Explosives
- Gear and suits
- Smoke bombs
- Sonic boom
- Bat call
- Bat mobile vehicle
Those are the main tools he mainly uses and there are no tools to show how Batman could easily get a bomb and take away his spidy senses.

Continuing on with my point above, what is to say that Batman cannot come up with a NEW GADGET? Why is he bound to have the same gadgets all the time? Why cannot he adapt to every situation that he comes face to face with. Going back to the money point, of course with his massive resources he could EASILY develop or buy a sonic gadget that could disrupt his spider sense, or EASILY make or buy a adhesive material that would reduce Spiderman's mobility.

-Basically you are saying since Batman has 100000000$$$ to buy any gear and make any gear your also stating he could beat
- Flash
- Wolverine
- Superman
- Sentry
- Franklin Richards
-Deadpool

Moving on with the gadget theme. What is to stop Batman from developing a sort of Slow Motion goggles to beat Flash?
Or another sonic device that could Wolverines will to draw his claws? NOTHING IS THE CORRECT ANSWER!!!!

Of course every superhero can be out of their league some of the time and Batman could fight people out of his league at a point. This time however it is SPIDERMAN that is out of his league. Batman has superior: intellect, resources, experience (peter is a teen, Batman an adult), and fighting experience that will allow him to defeat Spiderman.

Or course i would like to thank you for such a great debate. You performed wonderfully and i wish you the best of luck as the voting comes in.
Debate Round No. 4
12 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 10 records.
Posted by spiderman12345 3 years ago
spiderman12345
Wow this is why I dont do face off debates
Posted by MyDinosaurHands 3 years ago
MyDinosaurHands
@spiderman
Your opponent wasn't very good, you didn't prove much.
Posted by spiderman12345 3 years ago
spiderman12345
The only reason I put this debate because I am tired of em batman fanboys so I am just placing it here to prove that there wrong
Posted by MyDinosaurHands 3 years ago
MyDinosaurHands
If you guys'd like to see a different Spiderman/Batman debate, with considerably more research involved, please stalk my profile to find it.
Posted by SirReal 3 years ago
SirReal
Tired of this age old debate. Spider-Man wins handily, and I like Batman as a character more by miles.
Posted by michaelmatt21 3 years ago
michaelmatt21
Oh I am so sorry he said we were tied in everything except your one victory. My bad
Posted by spiderman12345 3 years ago
spiderman12345
Voters choice not yours dude you can have conduct point s taken off
Posted by spiderman12345 3 years ago
spiderman12345
Voters choice not yours dude you can have conduct point s taken off
Posted by michaelmatt21 3 years ago
michaelmatt21
No 4 points i should be winning...

spiderman12345michaelmatt21Tied
Agreed with before the debate:--0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--0 points
Who had better conduct:-me1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:-me1 point
Made more convincing arguments:you-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:-me2 points
Total points awarded:30
Posted by michaelmatt21 3 years ago
michaelmatt21
what happened with my 3 points i was supposed to get for other things than the better stuff at the end?
2 votes have been placed for this debate. Showing 1 through 2 records.
Vote Placed by Gohan12345 3 years ago
Gohan12345
spiderman12345michaelmatt21Tied
Agreed with before the debate:-Vote Checkmark-0 points
Agreed with after the debate:Vote Checkmark--0 points
Who had better conduct:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:Vote Checkmark--1 point
Made more convincing arguments:Vote Checkmark--3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:40 
Reasons for voting decision: Con admitted batman will lose to Spiderman.
Vote Placed by Juris 3 years ago
Juris
spiderman12345michaelmatt21Tied
Agreed with before the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Who had better conduct:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:Vote Checkmark--3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:30 
Reasons for voting decision: Parameters are not clear. Pro asserted the skills and abilities of spiderman, while con stressed the intelligence of batman. Pro futher stated that batman only beats superman because the latter has an obvious weakness, but spider's weakness is not clear. Pro also countered that money is not a factor in the match. Though batman as what con said is very intelligent, only luck can make him win over spiderman who possessed great skills as stated by pro.