The Instigator
asiandebater
Pro (for)
Losing
21 Points
The Contender
mongeese
Con (against)
Winning
46 Points

Stable nations are a greater threat to the U.S that stable nations

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mongeese
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/23/2009 Category: News
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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asiandebater

Pro

Failed nations are a greater threat to the U.S because of the lack of government control, also lack of territory control, and not being able to interact with other countries as a whole. These failed nations are posing several physical threats to the U.S because of all the nuclear power being help by them. Failed nations are also safe havens for terrorism to expand.

www.gale.com/harvardinternationalreview
mongeese

Con

My opponent's only paragraph talks about failed nations. However, this debate concerns stable nations and only stable nations. My syllogism will demonstrate why the resolution is negated.

1. Assume that "the threat of stable nations" = A.
2. A = A [1]
3. The comparison "greater" is an inequality. [2]
4. A can be in an inequality with A iff A =/= A. (Definition of "inequality")
5. A cannot be in an inequality with A. (The conclusion of 4 is shown to be false by 2, so the premise of 4 is false.)
6. The threat of stable nations cannot be in an inequality with the threat of stable nations. (Substituting A with "the threat of stable nations," as allowed by 1)
7. The statement "Stable nations are a greater threat to the U.S that stable nations" is an inequality. [2]
8. The statement "Stable nations are a greater threat to the U.S that stable nations" is false. (6,7)

1. http://en.wikipedia.org...
2. http://en.wikipedia.org...
Debate Round No. 1
asiandebater

Pro

This resolution talks about both failed and stable.
Most stable nations don't pose a threat because they are allies to use so there for they do not pose a greater threat.
Failed nations do pose a greater threat
to prove my point I will list some reason
*failed nations cause other nations to fail
* they hold high nuclear power for example Pakistan
* These failed nations create conflict for the U.S because of our unfavorable
so there for these failed nations are a over all problem

http://en.wikipedia.org...
mongeese

Con

"This resolution talks about both failed and stable."
Wrong. Look at the top of this page, at the words between my opponent's picture and mine, above "Add to My Favorites," "Report this Debate," and "Share with My Friends." There, you will see the resolution. I have copied and pasted it below:

"Stable nations are a greater threat to the U.S that stable nations"

Failed nations are completely irrelevant. They are not in the resolution. We are comparing stable nations to stable nations.

"Most stable nations don't pose a threat because they are allies to use so there for they do not pose a greater threat."
Well, it doesn't matter, because A = A regardless.

"Failed nations do pose a greater threat..."
Despite my opponent's reasons why failed nations may be a greater threat than stable nations, we are only comparing stable nations to stable nations. Therefore, my opponent's contentions are to be ignored, and my syllogism is to be extended.

Good luck.
Debate Round No. 2
asiandebater

Pro

HAHA wow you are so right, man I sure do feel stupid now. you win I need more practice

thanks I'm going to need it
mongeese

Con

My opponent has been enlightened. Good luck in future debates.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by rougeagent21 7 years ago
rougeagent21
LAME. mongeese, you knew what she was talking about ;)
Posted by mongeese 7 years ago
mongeese
draxxt, you obviously aren't aware of my DDO Win/Loss record history.
Posted by asiandebater 7 years ago
asiandebater
the word key should be guy
Posted by asiandebater 7 years ago
asiandebater
haha some key sent me a message saying that I only recieved votes because of my looks
Posted by draxxt 7 years ago
draxxt
It happens. Vote bombing is common nowadays... and has been for a while.
Posted by MTGandP 7 years ago
MTGandP
Why does Pro have 13 votes?
Posted by asiandebater 7 years ago
asiandebater
Thats right i will next time be very sure to pay attention to my resolution
Posted by mongeese 7 years ago
mongeese
PRO will probably never again make this mistake. One debate is all it takes, really, to fix mistakes.

*Looks back at first copyright debate*
Posted by JBlake 7 years ago
JBlake
Poor conduct by Con, but he is correct.
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