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Stalin`s Economic Policies Made Russia a World Power!

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Started: 10/21/2010 Category: Politics
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
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anca

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After coming into power Stalin implemented a series of plans in order to impose a ‘forceful recovery' of the economy, industry and the social life in a peasant dominated country. As a starting point, Stalin organized the Soviet Union by using Lenin's denatured idea of an idealistic socialism that he had taken from the German philosopher Karl Marx. The overriding aim of Stalin' s economic policies was to industrialize and modernize the Soviet Union as quickly as possible in order to ensure that in a limited period of time Russia will catch up with the capitalist countries that were seen as a thread to communism. Stalin was aiming a flourishing future for the USSR under the communist rule. Practical and ideological reasons forced him to make a series of decisions that will lead eventually to an industrialized and wealthier federation. For a strong military service, self- sufficiency, an improvement of the living standards and a image of Stalin that achieves even impossible targets, the Russian nation was metamorphosed from a peasantry society into a World Power able to confront the USA.
carmelo_a1

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Stalin's policies clearly did not make Russia a world power because of his fascist approach. I think we all can agree he supported a fascist type of government which is shown through his decisions.

Fascism is bad
Fascism is a petit-bourgoise ideology that believes that all the people are too stupid to know what's good for you and society generally. Fascists believe that only a small number of people understand what people need and can make good decisions. Which will never lead a country to world power because if its fascist it may seem like world power but is truley corrupt which the world understands. Stalin also didnt believe in a democracy because he doesnt trust his people to actually make decisions. The first people to go to concertration camps where socialists and other people who knew how to combat fascism. So unless you want a fake, corrupt powerhead leading your country i suggest you vote for me, the negative. Stalin is a capitilist tyrant. My oppenent says they were able to confront the USA? Really? If they were a true world power wouldn't they be interested in helping the United States but most important Russia was never a world power. United States has always been the top dog. Hegemony of the United States is simply overpowing all countries. To be a world power you need to have power and control of the whole world. So there can only be one country that has world power and clearly that is the US right now. My oppenet only talks about what he did she absolutely doesnt mention anything about how that made them a world power. She is just talking about the topic. Dont let her trick you, she does not mention anything important in that last speech. I have already won this debate because i actually am addressing the topic. Vote Neg.
Debate Round No. 1
anca

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I would like to thank my learned friend for the impressive speech on ‘fascism' and Stalin – a ‘capitalist tyrant'. However, the lack of any kind of historical knowledge is obvious.
‘Fascism is bad'????
The way in which my OPPONENT addresses the question is very much comparable to Barbara Bush's statement about war : ‘ War is not nice'. Oh thank you for reminding us!? And who was discussing the nature of fascism? This debate is on whether Stalin's 1930s economic policies were effective enough to transform the USSR from a peasantry dominated country into a World Power or not. And as long as every student is taught in school about the Cold War as being a ‘ideological confrontation between two World Powers' then it is a fact that the USSR and the USA were at a level of equality. I am not pleading for COMMUNISM or for the Marxist fundamental ideas, but for their effectiveness during 1930s. In discussing this claim, we are not even supposed to consider the human cost, the atrocities that took place or the plans that Stalin implemented in order to modernize the backward society in Russia.
The communist leader declared: ‘We are fifty or a hundred years behind the advanced countries. We must make good this distance in ten years. Either we do it, or we shall be crushed'�, in this way demanding co-operation, dedication and total mobilization of the peasantry and the proletariat for supporting the ‘building socialism'. This was the first attempt at the comprehensive planning of a major economy and also a turning point not only in the Russian history but in the history of world industrialization. Further on, Stalin will implement by means of terror and force, rapid industrialization and collectivization of peasant agriculture.
Through collectivization Stalin designed the path towards a socialist society, but the strongest revolutionary change was just about to come. Stalin introduced a colossal program of development, the Five Year Plans that would transform the Soviet Union into an advanced industrial state able to compete with the neighbors and to stand up in a predominantly capitalist world. The issues appeared when the central planning system, meant to replace the capitalist approach, found it could not cope with the standards it has imposed to itself. However, the road to socialism via industrialization inspired both party members and urban workers. The Five Year Plans were focused on the development of heavy industries thus Stalin and the Supreme Economic Council – Vesenkha - agreed that the funds should be divided and invested into coal, iron, steel and machine tools used in manufacturing. At this point, the USSR was less dependent on the hostile West and moved towards self-sufficiency. In this state of ‘autarky', the heavy industry has developed and the consumer industries producing clothes, shoes and similar other products also were on their way to prosperity, ensuring to some extent a more comfortable lifestyle. While in the First Five Year Plan the emphasis was placed on heavy industry, the Second Plan was dedicated to stabilize and consolidate the achievements of the First Plan. In addition, dams were built to provide hydro-electric power and continuous research of methods to increase production and find new sources of essential raw materials was developing. The Five Year Plans were about to bring an economic miracle. Through the Program, the Russians build factories to produce capital goods such as machinery and machine tools. The Plan also expanded new areas of production such as chemicals, motor vehicles and artificial fibres. Although the Plan was a success, throughout the process people have been oppressed by terror, force and pressure from Stalin and party officials that forced the proletariat into quickening the step in order to meet even higher and more idealistic standards. Even the workers struggled to cope with the unrealistic quotas, after the implementation of the three Plans between 1928 and 1941 (the beginning of the Second World War) Russia had adequate transport and communication facilities, roads, railways and canals. This period is also associated with the term ‘gigantomania' and is noted for some significant remarkable achievements such as the construction of the Dnieprostroi Dam that was for two years the world's largest construction site and that provided a serious quantity of electric power. Communication was considerably improved through the construction of the canal that connects the With Sea with the Baltic and Moscow with the River Volga. Further on, worker`s transport was also facilitated because of the railway system that was further extended and of the outstanding Moscow metro with chandelier lit platforms and marble walled stations- considered a spectacular achievement . Today it serves as a tourist attraction.

In addition, why would the USA invest so much money in the fight against communism all over the world if it does not represent a threat for them? what about Korea? What about Vietnam? 20 years of war, and 53 00 Americans killed? Why ? To fight communism! And why was the Vietnam war a limited one considering the weaponry that was used? well because they could have provoked the Third World War! Why ? well, because the USSR and the communist China had enough power to destroy the planet with their atomic bombs. And all of this started in 1920 from a Russia that had 150,000,000 peasants!! Don t you call this evolution?

My learned friend failed in addressing the question and therefore his points are irrelevant!
carmelo_a1

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Debate Round No. 2
anca

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carmelo_a1

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Debate Round No. 4
anca

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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by anca 7 years ago
anca
I would really like to know what you re talking about and why you re referring to my age.
Posted by Loserboi 7 years ago
Loserboi
when i initially read J kenyons comment first i thought this girl was like 16 and J kenyon wanted her to be 18 for legal reasons... LOL
Posted by J.Kenyon 7 years ago
J.Kenyon
Edit your profile settings so that you're 18.
Posted by wjmelements 7 years ago
wjmelements
You cannot accept this challenge because you do not match the Instigator's age and/or rank criteria.
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Ragnar
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