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Hypnodoc
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nitrogen85
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Standards should be placed on orginizations that Have the word News in the Title

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Started: 2/29/2008 Category: News
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Hypnodoc

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News, We have all seen this word and there is an integrity with it, However at current there are hundreds of "News" programs that are nothing but propaganda engines, churning out speculation and opinion rather than fact.

We need to place standards on any "News" program to ensure that information is broadcast in a non biased way.

I am not saying that we cannot have the biased shows, I am simply saying that opinion should not be touted as fact.
nitrogen85

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News. Yes it is a word that we have all heard. But you don't seem to know what it really means.

Definition taken from Webster's dictionary:
Lately made/beginning or recurring afresh/unfamiliar/additional

News does not mean fact. It simply means happenings and even rumors are distributed among people, by one way or another. Me telling my neighbor something could be news to her because she never heard me tell her that before.

Biased? I read newsweek, which is a well known weekly news source. The magazine is supposed to be divided into two groups. Conservative one week, and Liberal the next. But I know very well that the bias of the magazine is Liberal. If I can't tell what the bias of a news source is, then I probably don't know what my bias is, so why does it matter to me? If I say I'm Conservative, I know why I choose to be Conservative, therefore I will recognize what's Conservative and what's Liberal. But if I don't know where I stand, then why would I care?

Fact from fiction? A good reader, a person who knows how to read really, can recognize what is fact and what is fictional. Is it a fact that Obama can't be a good president? No, it's simply a matter of opinion. Is the Earth round? Yes, and we know that to be a fact because it is proven science.

If someone is so interested in whether or not something is fact or fiction, that person should look into the subject.
Debate Round No. 1
Hypnodoc

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Webster's defines Journalist as :a person engaged in journalism; especially : a writer or editor for a news medium.

From the Journalistic code of ethics:

Public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues. Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist's credibility

The code of ethics centers around Objectivity not biased interpretation.
Without enforcement we loose journalistic integrity and embrace mediocrity.

Also from the code of ethics:

"Unequivocal separation between news and opinion."
nitrogen85

Con

nitrogen85 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
Hypnodoc

Pro

My opponent declined to respond to my prior citation of the Journalistic Code of Ethics
I can only state the following as there is nothing for me to debate.

It is reasonable to require that the individual reporting News is qualified and has integrity.

The fact that the code of ethics for a journalist prohibits bias in the reporting of the news wholly supports this.

Simply put Regulation is necessary if we want the factual truth in any situation.
nitrogen85

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The code of ethics. Can't say that I disagree. I want facts, everyone does. But the bias of the news and the code of ethics are different. Code of ethics states that it should be done in such and such manner. That it should be facts.

Again, who cares what it's bias is if they don't even know their own? No one. If billy is conservative republican, he knows what his bias is, therefore recognizes what he believes in and what he doesn't.

Also, your liaison between bias and facts is weak. You have a hard time putting them together in relationship. Just because newsweek magazine is liberal bias, doesn't mean that there is only opinion in it. And what opinion there is, we understand and recognize it as such.

Then, if we were to take the word news out, what word could we replace it with that has no relationship to it? There is none. And again, news does not mean that it is all facts. It is simply unheard of stories, events, happenings.

Taking the word news out of something because it isn't all facts is preposterous. It doesn't correlate.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by nitrogen85 8 years ago
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I apolojize for not being able to post my last arguement, I was on a business trip in mexico, nothing illeagal. :)
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