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cloudbox0
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iholland95
Con (against)
Winning
26 Points

Star Trek 2 is better than Star Trek 1

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iholland95
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/12/2012 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (3)
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cloudbox0

Pro

just accept
iholland95

Con

Star Trek 1 is better than Star Trek 2 because it is the original. All the original movies are the best. The first movie of a series is always the unforgetable one. You just can't seem to forget it. It sticks with you forever. From the first movie, you are able to make judgements on the following movies in the series.
Debate Round No. 1
cloudbox0

Pro

thank you fro accepting


umm i dont think star trek 1 is original i think the series are, occording to IMDB (Internet movie data base) the rating for star trek 1 is 6.2/10 have a look for yourself http://www.imdb.com...; and the rating for star trek 2 is 7.7/10 http://www.imdb.com...; i mean star trek 2 has more action, story and it doesent drag also there is a enemy that is human! thank you
iholland95

Con

"Star Trek: The Motion Picture is the first film in the Star Trek series, the most successful series in movie history. After all, the fact that a movie series can hold the public's interest for 21 years (and nine films) and that the whole Star Trek concept is alive and well after over 30 years says something about the genius of Gene Roddenberry, Star Trek's creator." says a user on IMDB

"The films special effects are top-notch even today. The original effects are still as convincing as ever and they really do sell the films story. The space dock sequence in particular is a marvelous piece of special effects work and is the final shot of the Enterprise in the film as it goes into warp speed. The wormhole sequence is impressive also and the new CGI additions help out immensely. Indeed the whole V-Ger journey sequence is one of the most impressive special effects pieces ever to be put on film. The new CGI pieces add new shots to the film including an awe-inspiring reveal of the V-Ger craft." says another IMDB user.

"There is not much action such as in Star Trek II, but the movie is very cerebral and is really entertaining." said another IMDB user

. "Youthful, fast-paced, thrilling, funny and fueled by an adventurous spirit." says Greg Maki on Rotten Tomatoes.
Debate Round No. 2
cloudbox0

Pro

yes it was the first movie of the series but star trek 2 was rated the best it has two ships fighting and at the end a massive explosion star trek 1 is boring and drags alot i like both of them but we will let the voters decide
iholland95

Con

"OUT OF THIS WORLD" "The starting of a new story line for more Star Trek movies" say a reviewer on Metacritic.

"Paced at warp speed with spectacular action sequences rendered brilliantly and with a cast so expert that all the familiar characters are instantly identifiable." says Ray Bennett

"A burst of pure filmmaking exhilaration that manages to pay homage to the classic 1960s TV series and still boldly go where no man, William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy included, has gone before." says Peter Travers

There is my final argument made with quotes
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by cloudbox0 5 years ago
cloudbox0
bro go away you GWB fan (BLACK POWER!) man i live in a street w/ crime, drugs and wierd people, the best high school in my area were i can go to is the worst high school in NZ
Posted by 1Historygenius 5 years ago
1Historygenius
There is a reason why we have grammar and spelling. Regardless if your age it does not matter. I'm 16 and I don't use bad grammar in a debate. What happens is that people may not understand what you are saying or know what you typed if you misspelled it.
Posted by innomen 5 years ago
innomen
What a crappy debate.

BTW, Wrath of Khan is the only decent Star Trek movie (except possibly the last newer one)
Posted by cloudbox0 5 years ago
cloudbox0
how is english going to affect this? im only 14 its about the conduct and delivery
Posted by cloudbox0 5 years ago
cloudbox0
yes 1Historygenius The Wrath of Khan vs The Motion Picture
Posted by Maikuru 5 years ago
Maikuru
Star Trek 2 > All other Star Trek movies combined.
Posted by 1Historygenius 5 years ago
1Historygenius
Please clarify? Do you mean Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan vs. Star Trek: The Motion Picture.
Posted by drafterman 5 years ago
drafterman
Dude, seriously? You are expecting a Debate between one of the greatest Star Trek movies and one of the worst?
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Reasons for voting decision: what imabench said.
Vote Placed by imabench 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: pro had it in the bag but instead of using box office success or any kind of evidence he just gave his opinion.... con had a nice use of sources to back up his arguments too
Vote Placed by Hardcore.Pwnography 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con used quotes and had sources = sources vote. Pro doesn't know how to capitalize = con S/G vote. Pro's arguments were underdeveloped compared to Con's = Con arguments vote.
Vote Placed by THEBOMB 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con had more convincing arguments and better S/G.
Vote Placed by 1Historygenius 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Star Trek: The Motion Picture on Rotten Tomatoes has 47 approval vs. Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan has 90 approval rating. So generally Star Trek 2 is better than Star Trek 1 so I will give Pro conduct for this, but Con brought more to the debate so he gets more convincing arguments, also Pro could use a spelling and grammar upgrade (maybe he should re-take English class), but for using the only links he gets more reliable sources.