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trekchik5
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Tripy998
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Star Trek over Star Wars

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Started: 5/20/2014 Category: Movies
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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trekchik5

Pro

What with Star Trek: The Original Series, The Next Generation, Voyager, Deep Space 9, Enterprise, and soon-to-be-12 movies, the total run time of all canon Star Trek material is over 22 days. Star Wars has three movies"six, if you count the prequels. The total run time of all six movies is less than 14 hours. Though both franchises also boast a healthy extended universe in the form of novels, comics, and games, Star Trek handily beats Star Wars in screen time by more than 21 days. Let me rephrase that. Star Trek has over 37 times the material available for your viewing pleasure than Star Wars does. That is pretty much unbeatable. The Star Trek franchise has the wonderful ability to both summon tremendous nostalgia and still produce sexy new stuff. To compare with Star Wars, the original Star Trek series debuted in 1966, and A New Hope came eleven years later in 1977. The Revenge of the Sith came out in 2006 and has a respectable 80% on Rotten Tomatoes, but in 2009 Star Trek starring Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto was released, and that holds an impressive Rotten-Tomatoes 95%.
Tripy998

Con

Although Star Trek does have more material than Star Wars, Star Wars attracted more attention and more youth. Because Star Wars was made by Lucas Arts (later on owned by Disney), It was more oriented towards families and not being serious like Star Trek. Star Trek is Sci-Fi and it is action packed but it's not something that everyone would like to see. Star Wars was made in a way that even if you were not that big of a Sci-Fi fan, you would still enjoy the story and the characters. I have had many friends in the past say they preferred Star Wars because of it's characters and it's story line. Even though Star Trek had a quite peculiar Story line, it was not as unique as Star Wars. I found that the Star Trek Story line was predictable. Every episode followed the same guide line: They talk in the command room, they get a SOS/Call/etc., They Fight, done. Pretty predictable, don't you think? Thank you for your time.
Debate Round No. 1
trekchik5

Pro

I don't believe having Carrie Fisher in chains enslaved by a creature is very "youthful". In Star Trek, has time travel been used to:
Save whales
Meet Mark Twain
Rescue Earth from the Borg
Spoiler alert: the answer is "d." If you don"t know what I"m talking about, go watch Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home for the whales, The Next Generation episode "Time"s Arrow" for Mark Twain, and Star Trek: First Contact for the Borg. If you do know what I"m talking about, pop some popcorn and watch them anyway. You"re in for a treat either way. Worf. Data. B"Elanna. T"pol. Kes. Seven of Nine. Q. And most prominently, Spock. Star Trek explores the mentality and inner lives of aliens far more than Star Wars ever did. We can"t even understand what Chewbacca and R2D2 are saying in the Star Wars films, but Star Trek gives loads of time to its alien and half-alien characters to develop their characters. A prime example (haha, get it? Prime?) is the reboot Star Trek, in which we get some delicious insight into Spock"s backstory. Most of Star Wars" examples of non-human characters (excluding Yoda, may he rest in peace) speak in incomprehensible noises or are fat ugly crime lords.
Tripy998

Con

Tripy998 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
trekchik5

Pro

I have a few more points to make!
Gene Roddenberry"s original intent with Star Trek was to purposefully discuss issues and ideas that were cloaked in the allegory of futuristic space exploration. Though Roddenberry died in 1991, his tradition has been handed down through all of the series. Star Trek has discussed racism, homosexuality, death, AIDS, sentience, and more, and though it was sometimes heavy-handed or overdone, they often made for interesting discussions on the morality of characters" actions.
If you"ve seen Star Wars, congrats. You"re a normal member of society. However, if you are into Star Trek, you are part of a special community of people who share a deep bond. The geekier, the better! Not everyone has the stomach for a wriggling plate of gagh (live Klingon serpent worms, yum), but if you do, you can hobnob with the best of the geeks. So live long and prosper, Trekkies. Let"s go re-watch The Wrath of Khan for the millionth and one time!
Tripy998

Con

Tripy998 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Jman0056 3 years ago
Jman0056
I can hinestly say that would have been easyier for trippy if he responded
Posted by Jman0056 3 years ago
Jman0056
Well, so much for wrath of con
Posted by Jman0056 3 years ago
Jman0056
I think its just over all which is better, so i guess everything you just said. Can't wait to vote though. Go Star Wars. And SW is more fantastical and creative. Trek is very linear. I have to say while im probably more of a star wars fan, i AM a bit of a treky.
Posted by Poiyurt 3 years ago
Poiyurt
If I am to assume that what you have posted is your main argument, what exactly is your criteria for judging? Is it based on enjoyability, plot coherence, fan base, so on and so forth?
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