The Instigator
crazypenguin
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Losing
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The Contender
jmlandf
Con (against)
Winning
18 Points

Steroids should be banned in all sports.

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jmlandf
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 9/16/2008 Category: Sports
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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crazypenguin

Pro

Steroids should be banned because they give an unfair advantage on a players performance. Down with steroids....Down with steroids.....Down with steroids.
jmlandf

Con

Banned by who? Use apart from sports is acceptable? Is this your resolution? Anyway

Steroids should NOT be banned in all sports.

Certainly it is acceptable for private organizations to require its participants to sustain from steroids both legal and illegal. Major League Baseball, being a private (not government) entity, has the right to ban their use. The question is not about right but rather should or shouldn't they be banned in ALL sports. I concede that SOME sports they should be banned in, however not all.

Contention One: Benefits for user can out weight cons.
"Human Growth Hormone Studies of adults with growth hormone deficiencies show that injections of human growth hormone can:
-Increase bone density
-Increase muscle mass
-Decrease body fat
-Bolster the heart's ability to contract
-Improve mood and motivation
-Increase exercise capacity " http://www.mayoclinic.com...

Contention 2: Spectator sports are economically based on the best of the best
Steroids allow the athletes to be the best of the best. With-out steroid use spectators are not getting their full fill. When a spectator watches a Beauty Pageant the most beautiful women are required. Many of the women are enhanced by cosmetic surgery, such as a breast augmentation. This is socially acceptable, yet there may be much more significant risk with surgery than regulated steroid use. People have been using any product or knowledge they can to make themselves look better or perform better for centuries. Steroids, though a newer invention of man, is similar to make-up, cosmetic surgery, and diet supplements. Some sports such as competitive body building should allow the use of steroids for the same reason some beauty pageants allow breast enhanced participants. My intent isn't to say all sports should allow steroids, but some, should certainly have the right to allow.
Debate Round No. 1
crazypenguin

Pro

Thank you for joining this debate,

First to refute my opponents points.

"Contention One: Benefits for user can out weight cons.
"Human Growth Hormone Studies of adults with growth hormone deficiencies show that injections of human growth hormone can:
-Increase bone density
-Increase muscle mass
-Decrease body fat
-Bolster the heart's ability to contract
-Improve mood and motivation
-Increase exercise capacity " http://www.mayoclinic.com...;

My opponent has proved my point all the examples he gave show that it gives the user an UNFAIR advantage over all other players because of Increased bone density, Increased muscle mass etc.

"Steroids allow the athletes to be the best of the best. With-out steroid use spectators are not getting their full fill. When a spectator watches a Beauty Pageant the most beautiful women are required. Many of the women are enhanced by cosmetic surgery, such as a breast augmentation. This is socially acceptable, yet there may be much more significant risk with surgery than regulated steroid use. People have been using any product or knowledge they can to make themselves look better or perform better for centuries. Steroids, though a newer invention of man, is similar to make-up, cosmetic surgery, and diet supplements. Some sports such as competitive body building should allow the use of steroids for the same reason some beauty pageants allow breast enhanced participants. My intent isn't to say all sports should allow steroids, but some, should certainly have the right to allow."

How can you say that the people want the best of the best, yes they want the best performance but of person who is playing fairly and not cheating by taking steroids. If one person wants to be unethical and take steroids that doesn't mean that everyone does but it compels them to because of the advantage that one person got. It doesn't mater if all sports should allow it or some because wherever it is used it is cheating. Steroids should be banned in all sports for these reasons.

Thanks,
jmlandf

Con

"My opponent has proved my point all the examples he gave show that it gives the user an UNFAIR advantage over all other players because of Increased bone density, Increased muscle mass etc."

Diet, exercise, and vitamin supplements also can increase muscle mass and bone density why aren't these an "UNFAIR" advantage. Further steroid use has been shown to offer enormous benefit, when taken correctly, in regard to performance and physical/mental health to the user. There are risks to taking steroids, however there are also risk when exercising or taking other beneficial drugs or undergoing cosmetic surgery.

"... yes they want the best performance but of person who is playing fairly and not cheating by taking steroids. If one person wants to be unethical and take steroids that doesn't mean that everyone does but it compels them to because of the advantage that one person got."

It is only "cheating" if players had agreed not to participate or been required not to participate in steroid use. If they were allowed then it is no longer "cheating" because it is fairly playing by the rules, which also negates the ethics of the matter. Diet, exercise, vitamins/supplements, and proper health care are all things that can give an athlete advantage. What is the defining difference between steroids and these? Should vitamins/supplements and proper health care be considered Cheating or Unethical because another athlete feels compelled to do the same to improve his/her performance?
Debate Round No. 2
crazypenguin

Pro

"Diet, exercise, and vitamin supplements also can increase muscle mass and bone density why aren't these an "UNFAIR" advantage. Further steroid use has been shown to offer enormous benefit, when taken correctly, in regard to performance and physical/mental health to the user. There are risks to taking steroids, however there are also risk when exercising or taking other beneficial drugs or undergoing cosmetic surgery."
If you consider Diet, and exercise those you are working for, yes if you get better from them it is fair because you worked hard to get that way. Should a person who does 200 pushups a day and gets super buff, just be outdone by a person who take steroids? Also vitamin supplements don't do 1/8 as much as steroids do to the players, and day by day more are becoming illegal.

"It is only "cheating" if players had agreed not to participate or been required not to participate in steroid use. If they were allowed then it is no longer "cheating" because it is fairly playing by the rules, which also negates the ethics of the matter. Diet, exercise, vitamins/supplements, and proper health care are all things that can give an athlete advantage. What is the defining difference between steroids and these? Should vitamins/supplements and proper health care be considered Cheating or Unethical because another athlete feels compelled to do the same to improve his/her performance?"

Which they have been........It is against the law to participate in sterood use. Which sport allows steroid use? All the other things are tethical because those you work for as I stated above, while steroids its a free ride and all you do is take them and become the best player.

Conclusion:
Steroids should banned in all sports because they offer unfair advantage to a player who takes them. Steroids do nothing but tempt players to take them. If they were not around sports would be a lot more honest and fairer in competition. Steriods should be banned in all sports
jmlandf

Con

Steroids should be allowed in SOME sports.

All of the below scenarios negate all arguments my opponent has placed
1Steriods should be allowed in any sport that steroids will not have an impact on performance, such as the sport of darts or billiards.
2Steriods should be allowed in sports that nearly every participant already uses steroids, such as body building (not the same as weight lifting)
3Steriods should be allowed in sports that are simply played for fun and not professional, such as a game of touch football with family.

Further every private sports association should have the right to determine their own stance on steroid use, whether that be banned or not.

My opponent says"...It is against the law to participate in sterood use."
Not all steroids are illegal in all countries. I assume my opponent means the United States of America. Even in the United States of America human growth hormone is Legal.
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