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Steve Young is a Better Quarterback than Joe Montana

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george_ily_nae

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SAN FRANCISCO -- Joe Montana never did it. Neither did Steve Young or Y.A. Tittle. Even the architect of the West Coast offense, Bill Walsh, could only imagine such a massive mark.

Of all the Hall of Fame quarterbacks and coaches in the history of the San Francisco 49ers, leave it to Alex Smith and Jim Harbaugh to set a new standard.

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Smith threw for a season-high 303 yards and three touchdowns, Frank Gore ran for 106 yards and a score, and the 49ers amassed a franchise-record 621 yards in blowing by the Buffalo Bills 45-3 on Sunday.

San Francisco also became the first team in NFL history with 300 yards passing and 300 yards rushing.

"Very cool," Smith said. "When you think of the 49ers, you think of great offense."

Michael Crabtree (seven catches for 113 yards) and Vernon Davis (seven catches for 106 yards) each eclipsed the century mark to pull San Francisco (4-1) into a tie with Arizona for the NFC West lead. Even Randy Moss, rarely targeted in his comeback, caught a pass for 11 yards.

Smith, the 2005 No. 1 overall pick out of Utah, threw TD passes of 43, 28 and 10 yards and surpassed 300 yards passing for only the third time in his career -- and first in a victory. The last time came when he had 309 yards in a loss at Philadelphia two years ago -- "a completely different world," he said -- in former coach Mike Singletary's final season.

49ers and Bills Set Franchise Records
The 49ers set a new franchise record with 621 yards of total offense. It's also the most total yards of offense the Bills have ever allowed in a game. Ironically, the previous franchise record for the 49ers came against the Bills in San Francisco in 1992. And that was also the most the Bills had ever allowed.

Most Total Yards of Offense
49ers History
Year, Opponent Yards
2012 vs. Bills 621
1992 vs. Bills 598
1953 vs. Colts 597
1992 vs. Falcons 590
1988 at Seahawks 580

Most Total Yards of Offense Allowed
Bills History
Year, Opponent Yards
2012 at 49ers 621
1992 at 49ers 598
2012 vs. Patriots 580
1977 at Seahawks 559
2001 at Colts 555

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"Quarterback was near perfect," Harbaugh said.

The Bills again found themselves on the wrong side of a 49ers record -- and quite a few others, too.

Rian Lindell kicked a 31-yard field goal in the first quarter before the 49ers scored the final 42 points to hand Buffalo (2-3) its second straight embarrassing loss. San Francisco's previous best was 598 yards in a 34-31 loss to the Bills on Sept. 13, 1992, which also was Buffalo's worst.

Ryan Fitzpatrick threw for 126 yards and an interception, and the Bills rushed for only 89 yards, most with the game well out of hand once again.

"They flat-out dominated the game from end to end," Fitzpatrick said. "We just got beat bad by a better team today. There was no fancy stuff. They are who they are and they just played better."

Far better.

The Bills allowed 45 second-half points and 580 total yards in a humiliating 52-28 home loss to New England last week. Beginning a two-week road trip, Buffalo's baggage also traveled to the West Coast.

Since taking a 21-7 lead against the Patriots, Buffalo has been outscored 90-10. The Patriots and 49ers combined to gain 1,201 yards. And with the 49ers shredding the New York Jets last week, they've outscored opponents 79-3 in their last two games.

The Bills became the first team to give up at least The Bills became the first team to give up at least 550 yards in consecutive games in the same season since the 1950 New York Yanks.

"I have no answers and no excuses," beleaguered Bills coach Chan Gailey said. "I don't have the answers and I have to find the answers. That's my job."

With the Bills unable to slow anybody down on defense, San Francisco abandoned its usually conservative game plan to deliver a scintillating show in the air.

Smith, who sprained his middle finger in the fourth quarter, completed 18 of 24 passes. He also had a perfect 158.3 passer rating in the first half, when he threw for 237 yards -- a career best for a half.

Smith wore a light wrap on the finger during his postgame news conference. He said he thought the finger might be sprained, but he was not certain. He did not sound concerned.

The longest completion Smith had in the first four weeks was for 29 yards. In the first half alone, he completed a 53-yarder to Davis that set up a field goal by David Akers, a 43-yard touchdown to Kyle Williams and hooked up with Crabtree for 36 yards.

Williams took the back-shoulder pass from Smith, spun away from a defender and ran the final 10 yards free into the end zone. Williams fell to his knees, raised his arms and nodded to the sun-splashed crowd at Candlestick Park after giving the 49ers a 10-3 lead.

Every time the Bills blew an opportunity -- and they blew plenty -- the 49ers capitalized.

Backup quarterback Colin Kaepernick, who ran for 39 yards on four carries, fumbled on an end-around and Buffalo took over at its own 17. Two plays later, Patrick Willis stripped Scott Chandler, San Francisco recovered and Smith floated a 28-yard touchdown to Crabtree to put the 49ers in front 17-3 with 24 seconds to go before the half.

"Everything about today was just amazing," Crabtree said.

A holding penalty on Buffalo's Jairus Byrd wiped out a punt return Leodis McKelvin took for a touchdown in the first quarter. The offense failed to score any points after McKelvin returned a kickoff 59 yards. And after a 12-play, 75-yard drive that took nearly 6 minutes stalled in the second quarter, Lindell kicked a field goal for Buffalo's only score.

Smith led another touchdown drive that featured Kaepernick gaining 15 yards on a sweep and ended one play later when Gore dove over the pile for a TD that extended San Francisco's lead to 24-3.

Chris Culliver intercepted an underthrown pass by Fitzpatrick just shy of the goal line to end Buffalo's best chance to reach the end zone all afternoon.

Smith also tossed a 10-yard TD pass to Mario Manningham, Kaepernick ran 16 yards for a score and Anthony Dixon added a 3-yard run for the final touchdown.

"I'm not a big statistical guy, don't get caught up in it," 49ers offensive coordinator Greg Roman said. "But at the same time, just in the normal course of events to be able to throw up that kind of production, obviously we're doing something right."

Game notes

Buffalo allowed 500 yards in consecutive games for the first time in franchise history. ... Bills DE Mario Williams wore a small stabilizer on his left wrist instead of the brace he had the first four weeks. He appeared to grimace after a few plays. "It's good one day, and bad the next day," said Williams, who had two tackles and no sacks. ... Byrd injured a chest muscle, and Bills OL Chad Rinehart hurt his calf in the second half and did not return. Both are day to day.The Bills are the 1st team to allow at least 550 yards of total offense in consecutive weeks since the 1950 New York Yanks.
The 49ers set a new franchise record with 621 yards of total offense. It's also the most total yards of offense the Bills have ever allowed in a game. Ironically, the previous franchise record for the 49ers came against the Bills in San Francisco in 1992. And that was also the most the Bills had ever allowed. [+]Most Total Yards of Offense
49ers History
Year, Opponent Yards
2012 vs. Bills 621
1992 vs. Bills 598
1953 vs. Colts 597
1992 vs. Falcons 590
1988 at Seahawks 580

Most Total Yards of Offense Allowed
Bills History
Year, Opponent Yards
2012 at 49ers 621
1992 at 49ers 598
2012 vs. Patriots 580
1977 at Seahawks 559
2001 at Colts 555
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Team Stat Comparison BUF SF
1st Downs 10 29
Passing 1st downs 6 11
Rushing 1st downs 4 18
1st downs from Penalties 0 0
3rd down efficiency 2-10 7-11
4th down efficiency 0-0 1-1
Total Plays 46 63
Total Yards 204 621
Yards per play 4.4 9.9
Total Drives 12 10
Passing 115 310
Comp - Att 16-26 19-25
Yards per pass 4.4 12.4
Interceptions thrown 1 0
Sacks - Yards Lost 1-11 0-0
Rushing 89 311
Rushing Attempts 19 38
Yards per rush 4.7 8.2
Red Zone (Made-Att) 0-1 4-5
Penalties 5-30 7-53
Turnovers 2 1
Fumbles lost 1 1
Interceptions thrown 1 0
Defensive / Special Teams TDs 0 0
Possession 23:43 36:17

Passing Leaders
BUF C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS
Fitzpat... 16/26 126 4.8 0 1 1-11

SF C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT SACKS
Smith 18/24 303 12.6 3 0 0-0
Kaepernick 1/1 7 7.0 0 0 0-0

Rushing Leaders
BUF CAR YDS AVG TD LG
Smith 1 35 35.0 0 35
Jackson 9 29 3.2 0 7

SF CAR YDS AVG TD LG
Gore 14 106 7.6 1 31
Hunter 11 81 7.4 0 26

Receiving Leaders
BUF REC YDS AVG TD LG TGTS
Chandler 4 40 10.0 0 20 6
Johnson 6 39 6.5 0 14 10

SF REC YDS AVG TD LG TGTS
Crabtree 6 113 18.8 1 36 7
Davis 5 106 21.2 0 53 7

Scoring SummaryFIRST QUARTER BUF SF
FG 07:25 David Akers 19 Yd 0 3
SECOND QUARTER BUF SF
FG 10:46 Rian Lindell 31 Yd 3 3
TD 09:54 Kyle Williams 43 Yd Pass From Alex Smith (David Akers Kick) 3 10
TD 00:24 Michael Crabtree 28 Yd Pass From Alex Smith (David Akers Kick) 3 17
THIRD QUARTER BUF SF
TD 09:06 Frank Gore 1 Yd Run (David Akers Kick) 3 24
FOURTH QUARTER BUF SF
TD 14:12 Mario Manningham 10 Yd Pass From Alex Smith (David Akers Kick) 3 31
TD 09:55 Colin Kaepernick 16 Yd Run (David Akers Kick) 3 38
TD 01:11 Anthony Dixon 3 Yd Run (David Akers Kick)
nick64

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In your speech there in a evidence for all thoes informations,? Aren't we debating abute who is better and not info. abute games.?

I will like to introduce Joe Montana. He was an profesional american fotball player, his aperent status is retired he started to play college in 1975 at Noter dame college he Won the national college leauge. He didn't play a second sesson as he soppose to, he injured his soluder.
When Montana arrived at Notre Dame in the fall of 1974, the football program was coached by Ara Parseghian. Under Parseghian's tenure, Notre Dame had won the NCAA national championship in 1966 and 1973. Parseghian's success as a coach helped him recruit highly talented players. Though Montana was a talented player, under Notre Dame policy in 1974 freshmen were not permitted to practice with or play on the varsity team, and consequently Montana played only in a few freshman team games.[11] Montana's first significant contributions to the Notre Dame football team came during his sophomore year.
On December 15, 1974, Parseghian resigned due to health problems.[11] The university hired Dan Devine to replace Parseghian. Despite his limited playing time the previous year, Montana performed well during the 1975 spring practice. Devine was so impressed that he later told his wife: "I'm gonna start Joe Montana in the final spring game." When she replied, "Who's Joe Montana?", Devine said: "He's the guy who's going to feed our family for the next few years."

1975
Devine did not feel Montana was ready to be the full-time starter in 1975;[11] however, Montana played a key role in Notre Dame's victory over North Carolina.[11] During the game, played in Chapel Hill, Montana came in with 5:11 left to play. At the time, North Carolina led by a score of 14"6. Montana spent one minute and two seconds of game time on the field. In that time, he had 129 passing yards and Notre Dame won the game 21"14.[11]
Against Air Force, Notre Dame's next opponent, Montana again entered the game in the fourth quarter. Although Air Force led 30"10, Notre Dame won the game 31-30.[11] After the win against North Carolina, Devine said that Moose Krause, the Notre Dame Athletic Director, said that the game was the "greatest comeback I've ever seen."[11] After the game against Air Force, Krause was quoted as saying: "This one's better than last week."[11] In those two games, Montana had demonstrated his ability to perform well in high pressure circumstances. That characteristic would prove valuable, and Montana relied on it throughout his football career.[11]

1976
Before the start of the 1976 season, Montana separated his shoulder,[11] and was unable to compete that year and redshirted, earning him one more year of eligibility than other members of his scholarship class.
1977
When the 1977 season began, Montana was the third quarterback listed on the team's depth chart, behind Rusty Lisch and Gary Forystek.[3] Notre Dame won their season opener and then lost to Mississippi by a score of 20"13. Montana did not appear in either of those games.[13] In their third game of the season, Notre Dame played Purdue. Lisch started and was then replaced by Forystek. In one play, Forystek suffered a broken vertebra, a broken clavicle, and a severe concussion; it was the last play of Forystek's sports career.[11] Devine inserted Lisch back into the game before Montana finally had the opportunity to play. Montana entered with approximately 11 minutes remaining and Purdue leading 24-14; he threw for 154 yards and one touchdown, and Notre Dame won the game 31-24.[11]
After the game, Devine made Montana the first quarterback on the depth chart[3] and the team won their remaining nine games. In their final game of the season, Notre Dame defeated top-ranked Texas by a score of 38"10 in the Cotton Bowl.[14] Notre Dame's record of eleven wins and one loss earned them the NCAA national title, the only title the school won while Devine was head coach.
[edit]1978
The following year, Montana helped Notre Dame to a come from behind win against the Pitt Panthers. He almost pulled off a second one against USC, Notre Dame's primary rival. Trailing 24"6 in the second half, Montana led a fourth-quarter rally to put Notre Dame ahead, 25"24 with 45 seconds remaining, only to see the Trojans win, 27"25, on a last-second field goal.
On January 1, 1979, Notre Dame returned to the Cotton Bowl, this time against Houston. Montana's performance in that game is one of the most celebrated of his entire football career;[11] the circumstances of the game have led to it being referred to as the "Chicken Soup Game".[15]
Montana fell ill during the game, received warmed intravenous fluids during halftime, during which he also drank chicken soup, and went back into the game in the fourth quarter. Notre Dame ran their last offensive play with two seconds remaining on the game clock. The Irish scored a touchdown and won the game 35 to 34. As a result of the game, Notre Dame went on to produce a promotional film called Seven and a Half Minutes to Destiny. Coach Devine later referred to the piece as a "Joe Montana film.

Montana graduated from Notre Dame with a degree in business administration and marketing. Although the NFL Combine was not formed until 1982, NFL scouts still evaluated potential draftees through the use of combines in 1979. Candidates were rated in a number of categories on a scale of one to nine, with one being the worst mark and nine being the best mark.[11] The categories they used were contingent on the position that the athlete played.[16]
Despite his performance on the field, Montana was not rated highly by most scouts. At one combine, Montana rated out as six-and-a-half overall with a six in arm strength, used to judge how hard and how far a prospect could throw the ball. By comparison, Jack Thompson of Washington State rated an eight, the highest grade among eligible quarterbacks.[11]
In the 1979 NFL Draft, the San Francisco 49ers selected Montana at the end of the third round with the 82nd overall pick.[17] Montana was the fourth quarterback taken, behind Thompson, Phil Simms, and Steve Fuller, all selected in the first round.

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Montana graduated from Notre Dame with a degree in business administration and marketing. Although the NFL Combine was not formed until 1982, NFL scouts still evaluated potential draftees through the use of combines in 1979. Candidates were rated in a number of categories on a scale of one to nine, with one being the worst mark and nine being the best mark.[11] The categories they used were contingent on the position that the athlete played.[16]
Despite his performance on the field, Montana was not rated highly by most scouts. At one combine, Montana rated out as six-and-a-half overall with a six in arm strength, used to judge how hard and how far a prospect could throw the ball. By comparison, Jack Thompson of Washington State rated an eight, the highest grade among eligible quarterbacks.[11]
In the 1979 NFL Draft, the San Francisco 49ers selected Montana at the end of the third round with the 82nd overall pick.[17] Montana was the fourth quarterback taken, behind Thompson, Phil Simms, and Steve Fuller, all selected in the first round. hi
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