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Icaretohearyouropinion
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Students should not wear spandex shorts in sports

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/29/2015 Category: Sports
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 572 times Debate No: 77106
Debate Rounds (3)
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Icaretohearyouropinion

Pro

Schools are contradicting on dress codes. They are not allowed to wear shorts that are above arm and finger length but they are required to wear spandex that reveal everything.
ResponsiblyIrresponsible

Con

I accept.

PRO is affirming a positive statement, and thus bears the sole burden of proof: he must demonstrate to us why students ought not wear spandex shorts while playing sports. I don't need to demonstrate that they should, but only must prevent PRO for proving otherwise. Therefore, if you're uncertain by the end of this debate, you presume CON.

Now, the only thing he says in his R1 is that schools are "contradcting themselves." He doesn't actually explain the contradiction, though even if there were a contradiction, this is an is/ought fallacy: it's possible to change school rules such that students are still allowed to wear spandex shorts during sports. We could even have a scenario where private schools, via an appeal to private property rights, could decide for themselves what their students wear. Note that if PRO concedes to this possibility, you vote CON because he's conceded the debate. He must argue that *all* students *should not* wear spandex shorts.

With that, I pass back to PRO.
Debate Round No. 1
Icaretohearyouropinion

Pro

Icaretohearyouropinion forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
Icaretohearyouropinion

Pro

Icaretohearyouropinion forfeited this round.
ResponsiblyIrresponsible

Con

Extend. PRO hasn't made a single argument to advance his BOP, nor has he challenged that he has the burden of proof. Therefore, you vote CON By default.

Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by F-16_Fighting_Falcon 1 year ago
F-16_Fighting_Falcon
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>Reported vote: SirMaximus// Mod action: Removed<

1 point to Pro (S&G), 4 points to Con (Arguments, Conduct). Reasons for voting decision: Before the debate, I agreed with Con that students should be allowed to wear spandex shorts in sports. Now, after the debate, I still agree with Con, because I think that Con had more convincing arguments than Pro, which I will explain soon. Con had better conduct, because Pro forfeited 2 rounds, but Con didn't forfeit any rounds. I counted 1 spelling and grammar mistake made by Con (spelling "contradicting" as "contradcting"), and I counted 0 from Pro, so Pro wins that. Con rightly pointed out that Con didn't have to prove anything, but Pro did, because Pro was on the affirmative side, and so had the burden of proof. Since Pro only made statements in Round 1 and forfeited the other 2 rounds, Pro did not fulfill their burden of proof, so Con wins that. Neither of them used any sources, so Pro and Con tie for reliable sources.

[*Reason for removal*] (1) The Spelling and Grammar mistakes are not readily apparent. This RFD does not explain what they are or how they affected the readability of the debate. Please read criteria #8 of the voting guide. Awarding S&G for minor, insignificant errors isn't justified. S&G should only be awarded if one side's S&G significantly impacted readability of the debate.
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Vote Placed by SirMaximus 1 year ago
SirMaximus
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Reasons for voting decision: I placed a vote before, and it was reported for violating the rules. I'm recasting my vote, and I'm making sure to follow the rules this time, with a slight adjustment. Before the debate, I agreed with Con that students should be allowed to wear spandex shorts in sports. Now, after the debate, I still agree with Con, because I think that Con had more convincing arguments than Pro, which I will explain soon. Con had better conduct, because Pro forfeited 2 rounds, but Con didn't forfeit any rounds. I was able to read both side's arguments very easily, so they tie for spelling and grammar. Con rightly pointed out that Con didn't have to prove anything, but Pro did, because Pro was on the affirmative side, and so had the burden of proof. Since Pro only made statements in Round 1 and forfeited the other 2 rounds, Pro did not fulfill their burden of proof, so Con wins convincing arguments. Neither of them used any sources, so Pro and Con tie for reliable sources.
Vote Placed by Wylted 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: FF