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Subliminal messages pose no danger to society, even when used.

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Started: 1/21/2011 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Do subliminal messages pose a severe threat to a new generation? Can they be used to overtly or subvertly control the mind? Can evil organizations use them to create a new legion of followers?

No. No, they cannot is my viewpoint. Con will be taking the side that subliminal messages can, and are, being used to subvert or control people.

1. Difference between themes and subliminal messages.

A theme is an overt meaning projected through any form of mass media. For example, a plotline entirely about Satan.

A subliminal message is a not immediately noticeable, such as a flashed 1 frame message, backwards lyrics and the like.

2. The brain's natural defence.

If somebody sees a symbol in a negative (Satanic) light, then they will most likely be unaffected by the symbol appearing anywhere else, because their brain has a natural defense against it. For example, if I told you that the number 43921021 was evil, then your brain would block it if you believed me.

3. In a negative light in many messages.

One popular target is the sixth season episode of the animated Nickelodeon series "SpongeBob SquarePants.," called "Cephalopod Lodge." In this episode, the character Squidward attempts to join this organization, which seems similiar to the Illuminati and New World Order, alleged Satan-worshipping organizations.

However, Squidward is mostly presented in a negative way, a character people will utterly hate. If Squidward is seen with connections to them, then children will grow up with an innate dislike of these symbols.

I look forward to a response.


I thank the opponent for the debate. This is my first debate, but I hope that the opponent doesn’t go easy on me in light of this.


Subliminal Message: Subliminal Stimuli

Subliminal Stimuli: any sensory stimuli below and individual’s absolute threshold for conscious perception.

Perception: perception is the process of attaining awareness or understanding of sensory information.

Danger: the condition of being susceptible to harm or injury; "you are in no danger"; "there was widespread danger of disease"

Society: A "society" is an abstraction of a collection of relationships between individuals, usually including distinctive cultural, economic, or political properties and vary greatly in complexity and scope.

Burden of Proof

Since opponent is the instigator PRO, the burden of proof is with him/her to prove that subliminal message offers no susceptibility to harm or injury whatsoever to society at all. To win this debate, he/she must prove the resolution for all possible conduits of subliminal message—which are sensory perceptions, including audio, smell, touch, visual, and taste,.
As it is not required of the CON to necessarily prove the opposite of the resolution, it would suffice as a win for the CON if he can prove that any one form of Subliminal Message is anything other than “not dangerous”.

Note that Danger is defined by “the condition of being susceptible to harm or injury.” And though Danger may be a graded concept, because the opponent did not specify, that means even the slightest of susceptibility to harm or injury would be enough to disprove the PRO.


“Subliminal Message is not entirely noticeable, such as a flashed 1 frame message, backwards lyrics and the like.”

The opponent founds his argument on the fact that duration of subliminal messages are too quick for the person’s brain to be able to process it.

A.However, recent studies prove that despite their fleetingness, subliminal messages do have an impact upon its viewer on a subconscious level. For example, if a word is flashed that is correlated to fear, then the region of the brain where fear is associated will be triggered. [1]

The opponent claims that brain’s natural defense capability obviates any influence subliminal message might have upon the viewer.
Referring to the example that the opponent gave, the opponent did not specify if this is subliminal message or not. For the purpose of argument, it will be assumed as subliminal.

A.The opponent is saying that SM will not work because it has to first pass through the “natural defence”. The whole point of subliminal messaging, however, is to bypass this discretionary mind filter of the consciousness and purposefully stimulate specific parts of the brain in the subconscious. I have proven the efficaciousness of SM above when discussing Advantage 1. Therefore, the whole thing is contradictory to itself.

B.Point of SM is to implant sentimentality and cognizance of correlation between object to object, not to learn proper. [2] Thus the example does not make sense.

C.This argument is in direct conflict with the above Advantage 1. The above advantage says that that SM are too fast to have any impact on the recipient at all, where as this advantage says that the viewer of SM can consciously determine whether to intake the message presented by the subliminal message.

The opponent has yet to prove with data that people receive subliminal message with conscious effort.

What I am saying: If you say that “43921021” was evil, I would have to think about it, and question whether or not that is a viable argument by deferring back to my intelligence. In the case of subliminal message, however, this ability is stripped away because of the fleeting duration of SM. You would not be able to think about it as you would some opinion, and it would be simply impress upon your subconscious.

This argument addresses the sixth season of Spongebob Squarepants. As to why the opposition cited this source remains a mystery, as the opponent provides no link between the episode and subliminal message.
The episode he cites in his argument is not subliminal message, but symbolism.
Hence: Irrelevant.

Dis: Dehumanization/Numbness

A.It is an often employed marketing technique to incorporate sexually suggestive subliminal message in their advert. This is supposedly done so as to subconsciously associate the brand with sexual pleasure.
I will cite information if opponent requires it.

a. This leads to people becoming numb to sex and increased number of sexual thoughts, just like talking about nuclear holocaust may lead to numbness to the magnitude of nuclear weaponries. (Nuclearism) (Will cite source if necessary)

b..This numbness will allow for weaker punishment of sexual offenders such as pedophiles, rapist and etc.

c. This will lead to dehumanization and society, regressing back to barbaric times.

d. Dehumanization is worse than death. Society will be devolved.


I have effectively disproven all of PRO’s arguments. I have also tacked on that, other than not being not-dangerous, sexually-implicit subliminal messages will lead to dehumanization and regression of human progress.
PRO has yet to address possible subliminal messages with regards to senses of touch, smell, and taste. The resolution requires that he address them so.
CON, therefore, should have the win.
Debate Round No. 1


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Extend all CON arguments.
Vote CON in light of opponent's failure to respond.
Debate Round No. 2


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Extend all Con's previous arguments.
forfeiture. Vote COn
Debate Round No. 3


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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by askbob 7 years ago
Science has shown that subliminal messages do not work
Posted by Ore_Ele 7 years ago
CON has to defend that they "are" doing this, or that "they are bad"?
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