The Instigator
Fanath
Pro (for)
Winning
8 Points
The Contender
Taking-back-hell
Con (against)
Losing
0 Points

Suffering is good

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Fanath
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/9/2014 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (3)
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Fanath

Pro

Pretty simple resolution... Con can start out as soon as she wants to. Hopefully we can solve this disagreement.

Thanks.
Taking-back-hell

Con

Suffering is bad.
Suffering is bad because it is causing physical and/or pain to a victim (aka Nate Juice employee)
Let's say, Nate Juice employee #1 is being tortured by Nate. This employee will be experiencing suffering due to the harsh conditions of the factory and Master Nate's actions. Will the employee enjoy this? I think not. Will he be destroyed by himself and others? Yes. Both of these, are not good things. Also, both of these, are effects of suffering.
Simply put, SUFFERING IS BAD.
Debate Round No. 1
Fanath

Pro

Alright, this should be pretty easy:

Con's only reasoning behind his argument that suffering is bad is that the one who is suffering doesn't like it. This doesn't matter. Just because the person doesn't like it doesn't mean it isn't benefiting them. Take brushing your teeth for example. It can be annoying to brush your teeth, but it still benefits the persons teeth. This shows that things you may not like can still be good for you. Her other point that suffering is bad because it causes victims to suffer is pretty obvious, it doesn't matter at all. It's just saying hat suffering is...

My argument is essentially that suffering gives us desirable traits. All of human greatness comes from suffering because it toughens us up to do things to get out of the suffering, and thus we learn not to do the bad thing or you know what to do next time it happens. When you're in a situation that you're suffering in it encourages you to get out of the situation. It widens our knowledge of the world around us and helps humans determine what to do and what not to do.

So the argument is:

P1: Suffering helps us
P2: Things that help us are good
C: Therefore, suffering is good.

I've refuted con's contentions and supported my own, vote Pro.

Thanks.
Taking-back-hell

Con

Taking-back-hell forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
Taking-back-hell

Con

Taking-back-hell forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by paulbrevik 2 years ago
paulbrevik
I believe it is safe to assume that people do not need to be told that standing in front of a train is dangerous. And of course anything has a good side, but in the end, you have lost your leg being run over by a train. Losing legs is bad.
Posted by Fanath 2 years ago
Fanath
You learn not to do that again from your experience. You can also tell your friends, and spread the message about not getting run over by trains in order to prevent dozens of others from doing so.
Posted by paulbrevik 2 years ago
paulbrevik
Sorry I should have been more clear. I meant accidental amputations of a healthy leg. Like getting run over by a train.
Posted by Fanath 2 years ago
Fanath
Actually, amputations are performed because of serious infections on the leg that we need to get rid of...
Or burning your lungs

You learn that it's a stupid idea..

. Or inhaling chlorine.

Again, don't be an idiot.,
Posted by paulbrevik 2 years ago
paulbrevik
Pro assumes that all suffering benefits the suffering entity. It doesn't. Amputating a leg causes great suffering, takes a lot of time to stabilize, and cripples you for life. You will never walk as well as you did before the amputation. Or burning your lungs. Or inhaling chlorine. The reason we evolve to feel pain is so that we are aware when things are harming us. And by the way, brushing teeth can hardly be construed as "suffering."
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Vote Placed by Themba 2 years ago
Themba
FanathTaking-back-hellTied
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Reasons for voting decision: Con forfeited two rounds.