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Carslile
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Superpower face off

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Started: 11/24/2012 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Carslile

Pro

Ok so you make a team of three super hero's or villains and we have a battle to the death!!!
debate on how your team will win
Rules: you can not choose the people who i have chosen
you cant make up your people.
nobody with omniscient omnipresent omnipotent ....you get it no omni all powerful type of powers or anything near that powerful.
no magic. that way my opponent doesn't just say that they poof my characters away
No gods.
Basic artillery. no super ultra death ray that will denigrate everything just there basic arsenal (for example the bfg in doom isn't allowed)

My Team: The Incredible Hulk, the phoenix (jean grey), and goku
bookwyrm

Con

I would like to thank my opponent for a fun debate. My team will consist of Rogue (post Ms. Marvel), The Flash, and Martian Manhunter.
Debate Round No. 1
Carslile

Pro

ok so at the start of the match phoenix levitates flash and chokes him. goku goes to fight martian man hunter and Hulk jumps to rouge and smashes the ground on impact and does a thunderclap in her face
bookwyrm

Con

Well, before Hulk lands, Rogue flies out of range of the shock wave that Hulk will produce as he lands and flies to The Flash and touches him, absorbing his speed and rendering him temporarily unconscious. Martian Manhunter phases out of physical form before Goku can land a hit and uses telekinesis to send him flying into Phoenix, disrupting her telekinetic choke hold on The Flash. Now Phoenix and Goku are in a pile on the ground as Hulk lands. You're up.
Debate Round No. 2
Carslile

Pro

ok so rogue flies at flash since the phoenix is looking at the flash from a distance and lifting/choking him, she would be able to see if someone gets near the flash, now she can easily use her powers on two things at once. she could do 10 things at once very easily so

phoenix sees rouge trying to go to the flash and traps her in a force field and crushes her with her power and stops goku from flying into her while she kills the flash and rouge. so phoenix crushes flash and rouge with her grasp and they die. goku is just flying in mid air hulk is waiting for action and u have two people dead. phoenix now being done of ur other two people goes after martian man hunter. she is a waaaaay more powerful telepath then him sooo i would like to see what u can come up with next =)
bookwyrm

Con

Sorry it took me so long to respond, but I've been busy. Anyway, when The Flash gets enveloped in her telekinetic bubble, before it can crash down on him and Rogue, he starts vibrating so fast his molecules separate like when he wants to pass through a solid object. Now I realize that a telekinetic bubble is far from solid, but the same principle applies. As he is vibrating, he is no longer a single lump of mass but rather billions of separated molecules all moving back and forth at the speed of light. He passes harmlessly through the bubble, because Phoenix, powerful as she may be, cannot grab something moving at light speed. To do so, she would have to be able to focus at that same speed. To focus at light speed you have to have the power to move at that speed. Like how The Flash and Superman can view their surroundings while running. After exiting the bubble, he realizes that he will not survive this fight on his own and would rather be unconscious than dead, so he runs over to Rogue and vibrates through her bubble. He solidifies just long enough to touch her hand, giving her his power and falling unconscious. She vibrates out of the bubble much like he did. Since he never stopped moving at light speed, this has all taken place in less than a nanosecond. She spears behind The Hulk, touching him and taking him out of the fight. In the meantime, Manhunter once again grabs Goku with telekinesis and sends him flying towards the sun. The fight is now two people on each side are awake, Goku is flying through the air, and Phoenix is standing there watching all of this transpire faster than she can even see or sense it, much less react. Your move ;)
Debate Round No. 3
Carslile

Pro

Well
1: idk how the same principle could possible apply, a telepath is using brain power, idk how the heck u gonna vibrate through brain power.... wait a second not even, you said " Now I realize that a telekinetic bubble is far from solid"... now since u are not in a solid object, you have nothing to vibrate through you are just stuck in mid air. if you turn into molecules then u would just be stuck in mid air as molecules.... she has the flash in mid air under her control she can force him to not move witch she would probably do or already is doing....

2: even if you could do that, i doubt flash can go from 0- to light speed in a matter of a nano second especially if he is in mid air. let alone turn into molecules get from where he is to where rouge is, then slow down enough to TELL rouge to take his powers (because molecules cant talk) or to just give her his powers and then get unconscious......also if he was unconscious and with out powers as molecules he will surely die so then he would have to stop completely before rouge touched him, and if he did stop completely we will be right back where we started- flash in phoenixes grasp
so highly illogical

3: also i said phoenix crushed rouge. a being such as herself should not take no more than 1 second to crush someone with her power already in her grasp. so by the time anything happened she would be dead
BUT EVEN IF YOU STILL DID EVERYTHING THAT I JUST STATED COULDN'T HAPPEN

4 Like i said before the hulk is watching everything waiting for battle. now i am sorry for not mentioning which hulk i am using but i am using the the most recent hulk (no reason not too) that has been through everything and fought his own son who is a smarter hulk with battle skills. i am using WWH. (same with goku, i am using goku at the end of GT... now idk which flash ur using but i would assume that you are using that flash at his most powerful) ....he would see rouge coming because hulk is not that slow as many people may know. if anything he will thunderclap in her face and ground and pound
BUT YET STILL IMA GO BY WHAT U SAID WOULD HAPPEN because i think i already have the extreme upper-hand by what i said.

so goku instant transmissions back to the area and goes to fight rouge as a ssj 2 and phoenix goes against Martian man hunter in a battle of wits (telepathy), she goes inside his head and.... well we all know what is going to happen. :D

keep in mind when goku first fought burter and jice he was dodging there attacks so fast that he didnt even look like he was moving. also at ssj 1 (even faster) goku moves so fast that he can not even be seen (as with his fight with cell)

ALSO goku now at his base form makes light work of cell (so his current base form is more powerful then his moving so fast that he cant even be seen ssj1) so as an ssj 2 he is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay faster then he was . so he is faster than *moving so fast he can not even be seen*. minus well be at light speed. im sure he can keep up with rouge

*side note: when rock lee opens 5 gates he is faster than the speed of sound. im pretty sure that goku ssj2 now is 10x faster than lee breaking sound speeds so like i said minus well be light speed* (sorry for refrencing outside stuff {Rock lee})

VOTE PRO :D
bookwyrm

Con

bookwyrm forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
Carslile

Pro

since my opponent has forfeited VOTE PRO :D
bookwyrm

Con

bookwyrm forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by tvellalott 4 years ago
tvellalott
Martian Manhunter is a terrible choice against Phoenix...
Posted by maxprimo 4 years ago
maxprimo
You should hav chosen ghost rider
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