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UtherPenguin
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JackHex
Con (against)

THBT "Operation Unthinkable" should have been implemented and supported on July 1st, 1945

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Started: 11/17/2016 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 weeks ago Status: Debating Period
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UtherPenguin

Pro

Well, that was quite the mouthful. Playing devil's advocate for this debate.


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This house: The Western Bloc; UK, America and their allies.

Operation Unthinkable: "Operation Unthinkable was a code name of two related plans of a conflict between the Western Allies and the Soviet Union. Both were ordered by British Prime Minister Winston Churchill in 1945 and developed by the British Armed Forces' Joint Planning Staff at the end of World War II in Europe." (Source:https://en.wikipedia.org...)

implemented: To be put to action.

Debate Round No. 1
UtherPenguin

Pro

Apologies for the inconvenience, I cannot posy my arguments now. I'll pass this round and let Con do his arguments

Oncw more, apologies.
JackHex

Con

It's a shame my opponent couldn't post his argument so here's mine on why Operation unthinkable shouldn't have proceeded.

1)The allies were outnumbered: The Soviet numerical superiority was roughly 4:1 in men and 2:1 in tanks at the end of hostilities in Europe. Meaning the allies would need a miracle to even make the first push through Germany.

2) Attrition: As Sun Tzu said "gThere is no instance of a nation benefiting from prolonged warfare."h This is even more true for the allies because with every passing day the Soviets reinforced their gains. It would be improbable for them to push them till Poland. The Soviets can hold and push the allies out of mainland Europe, the allies don't have the luxury of waiting.

3)The operation's success was purely based on luck: As said by the British staff committee the success of the operation was based on surprising the soviets. Which was pretty hard considering Stalin was a paranoid nut job who always knew the allies could betray them.

4)The Soviets could retreat, the allies could not: The territory proposed to be pushed into eastern Soviet land to counter all communist influence in Europe. This gave the soviets enough territory to back off if they needed to regroup. This was not a luxury that the allies had. They had to push fast and hard if they wanted to have any chance of winning.

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https://en.wikipedia.org...(World_War_II)
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Posted by JackHex 3 weeks ago
JackHex
I am willing to fully discuss this subject and tell you why it was an awful idea.
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