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DemosthenesNow
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tumeric
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Teachers should be armed

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Started: 9/1/2018 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 weeks ago Status: Debating Period
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DemosthenesNow

Pro

Gun control has quickly grown to become a huge political focus throughout the country, And many different solutions to the rampant school shootings like the Parkland attack have been presented with new zeal. If we cut to the chase and accept that we cannot overhaul American society in order to reduce gun violence, Then we can see that something must be done about the tools of destruction used by shooters themselves. Many would ban assault rifles, Lessen accessibility to guns and additional components, And increased background checks. While many of these solutions, Especially when combined, Appear more than adequate for the job, Looking deeper into the problem shows that answers like these will do little to make school shooting numbers significantly decrease. Let us imagine that all these restrictions are enacted. Assault rifles are banned, The number and quality of background checks grow, And it is more difficult to acquire guns. Criminals do not care if weapons are banned or not. Those unstable, Mentally ill, Possibly extremist individuals who would step into a school and murder innocent children, Will get guns if they want. And mental illness hides. No doubt background checks will help filter out these persons, But there will always be those that gain access to a gun anyway, And let's face it - guns are extremely accessible in the United States, And studies by the Pew Research Center have found that approximately one third of households in the United States own guns, And this does not account for the undocumented trading and selling of guns that has and will continue to exist. Guns will continue to be accessible to potential shooters one way or another no matter the attempts to make reality otherwise. Another, More controversial solution, Comes in the form of arming teachers. Officers cannot be solely depended upon to prevent these massacres, Shown potently when, For whatever reason, Officer Peterson failed to protect the Parkland students. In cases like this, What are students, And teachers, To do? Be forced to hopelessly, Albeit bravely, Attempt to resist the only person with the level of killing potential that a gun promises? Or, Will those responsible enough to wield such a weapon, The teachers, Be able to defend themselves and those around them? Any arguments that voice a feeling of un-safety that accompanies teachers being permitted to carry guns on campus must realize that a teacher who wishes to shoot a student will bring a gun to school whether or not it is legal, And while there will have to be many restrictions in order to protect the lives of the students and the teachers, This argument is flawed. If you cannot trust a teacher to have a gun in his or her room, That teacher should absolutely be fired, But it is true that sometimes teachers may act with anger, And having a gun in the room can be a problem. Despite this, If the necessary precautions and regulations are taken this risk should be minimized, If not virtually nullified. Others that battle against this solution will claim that increasing the numbers of guns at schools will cause a rapidly proliferating number of school shootings across the nation, But I have one point on this count. A fabricated number was created awhile ago that made a big splash on social media - that number was 18. Eighteen school shootings within the first few months of 2018. This was built of obviously skewed information that the public all too willingly ate up, But out of this army of apparent massacres, About five were actual school shootings, The definition of these events being a time at which a firearm was discharged with the intent of harming or killing innocent citizens without reason. This is still a powerful number, Which shows that even if arming teachers does, In the short term, Appear to increase the number of school shootings, The number is already alarmingly high, And this is likely one of the few solutions that is likely to truly fix anything. In an emotional appeal that often comes to the public's eyes through biased news stations, Such as Fox News, A terrifying world was fabricated, In which teachers weren't safe in their own schools, And in which teachers had to do something other than teach, Since that's "what they're there to do. " I would like to resoundingly state that this is the world that we live in. You cannot fix your problems by imagining that somehow you validate them by trying to solve them. You cannot erase your reality by contemplating how horrible it would be if it were actually your current circumstances. This is definitely a flawed solution, But it is by far the most decisive. Other "fixes" will only last us until the next string of shootings, When we will realize that we should've taken more drastic changes then. Let"s start now.
tumeric

Con

Your argument has many errors, So I will start by going through them.

First, We can overhaul American society in order to reduce gun violence. One good way to do this would be to follow the second amendment as written: If well-regulated militias are necessary for security of a free state, It seems like we ought to have well-regulated militias, Instead of random gun enthusiasts buying guns for personal protection, Which is nowhere in the second amendment.

"Those unstable. . . Will get guns if they want. "
Then why don't they? Criminals don't like full-auto M4s? They prefer AR-15s? Do you know how many M16s and M4 carbines are near you right now? Just go to your local Army Reserve unit or local police office and ask for one. You won't get one, Because these are restricted weapons and gun restrictions work. As a result, Criminals use unrestricted weapons instead, Just as the Parkland shooter did.

Now specifically regarding arming teachers, There are several problems.
First, The presence of guns changes the situation guns are in. In other words, Guns escalate bad situations by changing the risk factors. For instance, Tons of people are shot by cops because they might have a gun -- the possibility of a firearm forces cops (and teachers, If you have your way) to use deadly force, Even if that's ultimately unnecessary. Because the risk is still there. Therefore more guns increases the chances something will happen.

Also arming teachers normalizes school shootings. You don't put millions of dollars and personnel hours into training for a school shooting unless you expect shootings to occur, Because that would be a waste of taxpayer dollars. So weird kids get the message that school shootings are expected, And that there's room for this in school protocol. And that conflict is ultimately resolved by deadly force. Societies create their own realities.

Also there's no evidence that school shooters are crazy, Just like terrorists and Nazis aren't crazy. Nazis and terrorists are sane people reacting in a radical way to cultural forces in their societies. America is addicted to gun violence, And unstable people are reacting to that. If your solution to violence in schools is more guns, Then that proves my point.

Now that we've jacked up the risk factors by arming teachers, Who bears the burden? If a teacher fails to kill a shooter will they get sued? What if they reasonably believe a shooting is imminent and kill a kid but later that turns out to be wrong? Do they go to jail? How much will school districts spend on insurance to cover court fees and settlements?

In the end, Arming teachers will only result in increasing our addiction to enforcement and rules by force. More people will respond to this by becoming violent.
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Posted by n89thanh 3 weeks ago
n89thanh
Guns in a hormonal filled setting. Students get upset with each other. If a kid really wants to get at something, They will. You not only need to purchase guns, You would also need to purchase protection for the guns. A military grade lock box would be required to store the gun, Assuming such item exists and can't be lock picked or melted or damaged in any way as to allow access to the gun. You also need to prevent students staying after school from access. This can possibly mean 24/7 security surveillance (e. G. With camera or patrol). Considering many factors, It'd probably be cheaper to just hire an armed security guard. If we can't fund enough school supplies these days, Where would we be getting the budget to buy guns and related expenses?
Posted by hopefullycalm 3 weeks ago
hopefullycalm
What worries me is that this would put guns in classrooms. Putting guns in classrooms seems to beg for accidental shooting deaths. In 2016 there were 495 accidental shooting deaths and I can only imagine that increasing heavily due to the addition of guns to classes. I understand that the guns will be under lock and key but I can see a lot of scenarios where that gun could leave that space. I fear more children will die because of this.

Also, On the notion that gun control doesn't work I point to Australia. I understand that we are not Australia but wouldn't it be worth trying if it was so successful there. I just don't want my classmates to ever ask me again if I'm worried about being shot.

plz respond bc if you see any fallacies in my thinking I'd like to know
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