Teens should be able to get birth control without thier parents consent.
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| Started: | 11/14/2011 | Category: | Society |
| Updated: | 1 year ago | Status: | Post Voting Period |
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 Pro  Con Just because teens could buy birth control does not guarantee they will actually use them. Only 35% of teenagers use condoms even though they have access to them. http://www.idph.state.il.us... After you read that statistic look two lines lower on the website, teenagers like to get hammered and use illegal drugs during sex so they might not even have the common sense to use the birth control they bought..... You may want to consider that just because it is now more accessible doesnt guarantee that teenagers will still go and buy them. Also consider the fact that they must be used correctly. There are many birth control contraptions that could do quite a bit of damage to the teenager if they use it improperly, sometimes birth control pills and such are linked to causing many problems in an individual Yaz: a birth control product used by millions of women was found to be linked to horrible side effects such as blindness, in some cases cancer, strokes, etc. and that is just ONE of the DOZENS of birth control supplements out there on the market. You claim that parents dont want to let their kids have sex because they will get pregnant and that sex is safe with birth control, perhaps you have never heard of things called STD's.... STD's, as we all know, are sexually transmitted diseases and there is no form of birth control on the market that prevents against the passing of any STD from one individual to another. STD's affect far more teenagers than teenage pregnancies do, and STDs affect teenagers more than any other age group.... Sources showing birth control does not protect against STD's http://www.pregnancyandchildren.com... http://ehealthforum.com... http://kidshealth.org... http://www.zocdoc.com... http://www.womenshealthzone.net... Number of STD cases each year (roughly 3 million a year among teenagers) HIV = 10,000 to 20,000 new cases a year among teenagers Chlamydia = 40% of ALL girls 15 to 19 HPV = 15% of ALL girls 15 to 19 Herpes = up to a million new cases each year total, a great proportion of them among teenagers AIDS = Over a million total, many cases are not even reported though.... http://health.shiawassee.net... http://www.bhg.com... Teenage pregnancy = 1 out of 12 teenage girls, Teenage STD's = 1 out of 4.... http://www.msnbc.msn.com... I could go on but Ill stop here for now, so let me summarize: Unconditional access to birth control by teenagers should not be legal because 1) Just because teenagers buy them doesn't mean they will use it properly or at all 2) Birth control (Yaz for example) has many harmful effects that cause many more health problems then they prevent 3) Birth controls do NOT prevent against STD's which spread faster and affect WAY more teenagers than pregnancy does 4) The alleged health "benefits" of the POSSIBILITY of lowering pregnancy rates would be greatly offset by the number of new STD cases, which in many cases prove to be lethal..... |
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Pro A teen that has strict parents, (possibly Catholic parents), cant just go and say I need birth control because it in most cases, just does not work. The doctor would explain how to use it, and it would but up to the free willed teen to use it correctly. When birth control is not used correctly by ANY ONE it can be harmful not just teens. Also not just teens sell and use drugs, not just teens use or don't condoms, and just because the legal drinking age is 21 doesn't mean that teens don't drink. Note: This applies for teen girls ages 15-17 that really what to be protected from pregnancy. Con Quick clarifications: 1) I never claimed you said that birth control doesnt protect against STDs, Im just showing that the health benefit of unlimited access to birth control would be very outweighed by the spread of STD's through sexually active teenagers 2) I also never claimed that you said everyone would get them, Im just showing how teen pregnancies would not be wiped out 3) My Dad buys guns and stuff to hunt gators not people.......... thanks for suggesting hes a murderer though You claim that "When birth control is not used correctly by ANYONE it can be harmful not just teens." Birth control can be harmful to people when just ONE person does not use it correctly, It only takes one person to pass an STD onto another person and then those two people could accidentally give it to others later in life.... Implying that everyone has to use birth control incorrectly for harm to be done to teenagers is not true at all "This applies for teen girls ages 15-17 that really what to be protected from pregnancy." The debate resolution is "Teens should be able to get birth control without their parents consent" Not "Teenage girls ages 15-17 who really want to be protected from pregnancy should be able to get birth control without their parents consent" Unrestrained access to birth control would affect far more groups than just the audience you really wish were the only ones getting unrestricted access. This idea of unrestricted birth control to all teens would have far more consequences as well my other arguments still stand |
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Pro Teens should be able to get birth control without their parents consent. Not STDS! I know that STD's are spreading throughout the nation, but you did not include how many babies are born with STD's. everydayheath.com I never meant that your dad is a murderer, I was trying to imply that guns are accessible it is up to the person to use them correctly. Just like with birth control, it is up to the person use it to use it correctly. Sorry if I offended you. Con My final arguments against unrestricted birth control: 1) A subsequent rise in STD rates 2) Teens may not even use them 3) Even if they do they may not use them correctly 4) Pregnancies may fall but STD rates would climb so there would be no net health benefit (I see what you meant by the guns argument, so no harm done) |
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Vote Placed by GaryBacon 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Although I believe that older teens (maybe 15 and older) should have access to birth control, Pro did not do much to support the claim. Con's arguments were much better. Also, I gave Con spelling and grammar because Pro kept using the word "any ways." "Anyway" is an adverb and adverbs cannot be pluralized. It's always been a pet peeve of mine.
Vote Placed by wiploc 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: RFD in comments.
Vote Placed by RoyLatham 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro should have won, I think, but failed to make the best arguments, so I'm going to give the nod to Con. Pro should have made an argument that there was a reasonable right for teens to have birth control, and con had to overcome that right. Con said pregnancy would not be diinished. That grants that STDs would not be diminished. Dangerous device still require a prescription, so it's up to the doctor to prescribe what a teen can handle safely. As it is, Con's STD argument stands.
Vote Placed by Double_R 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro began with an argument, but dropped it in the proceeding rounds. She did not defend them against Cons counter arguments or properly address any of the arguments Con made.
Vote Placed by phantom 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro's starting arguments weren't too bad, she just did a bad job defending them as well as refuting con. Pro ignored allot of cons arguments. Pro attempted to change the resolution during the debate. Con used multiple sources to back his claims why pro used none. Pro had bad grammar/spelling.
All right then, don't come crying to me Joe taxpayer and expect me to pay their bills when and if they do become pregnant because they are irresponsible piles of crap who aren't prepared to accept the consequences of their actions. Go ahead and screw your brains out, but don't you dare expect me to pay for their kids if their birth control doesn't work. I have absolutely no sympathy for them or their illegitimate children. Absolutely none. Let them starve in the street along with their illegitimate children.
: have birth control have been a good argument for the Pro?
I like it. I believe it. It's why I read this debate. I'm tired of people trenching on other people's rights.
That said, I might not have made it myself. Introducing "rights" into the conversation might entail having to defend the fuzzy concept and trying to explain why you believe in this particular right. Which I do believe in, I absolutely do, but I can imagine an opponent making the issue difficult.
So my line about chewing gum might be as close as I came to articulating that right.
: What about Pro's arguments,
Pro's argument that legal contraception would reduce teen pregnancy is good, though it seems to me unnecessarily narrow. Chewing gum doesn't prevent pregnancy, but we shouldn't criminalize that.
The rest of Pro's arguments seem to me wide of the mark.
- The STDs response fails to mention that STDs might not go up significantly. Nor does it point out that we like sex enough that we're willing to accept some increase in STDs for an increase in sex. Or even just for the amount of sex that is free of worry about pregnancy. "I never said that birth control prevents STDs," fails to make the essential point that we like sex, and we'd get to have more and better sex if we had contraceptives.
- "Note: This applies for teen girls ages 15-17 that really what to be protected from pregnancy." This, again, is off target, fails to advance Pro's case.
- "Not STDS! I know that STD's are spreading throughout the nation, but you did not include how many babies are born with STD's. everydayheath.com" This seems to support Con's case, does nothing for Pro's case.
And that's all he's got. He was cogent only in his first post; after that he was shooting at shadows.
: would Roylatham's comments about teens having a reasonable right ... to
: have birth control have been a good argument for the Pro?
Con says it wouldn't reduce them as much as it might, because not every teen would use birth control even if it was legal. Not a good point: Some teens would use birth control if legal, so some teen pregnancies would be prevented. Bad argument, but never refuted, so advantage Con.
Con says birth control has side effects. Bad argument because (a) it has side effects for everybody, not just teens, and (b) pregnancy has worse side effects. But, again, this argument wasn't refuted. Advantage Con.
Con says birth control will increase STDs. That may be true, but I don't know whether they would go up significantly. It would be true only to the extent that availability of birth control increases sex, and most people have sex anyway. And it's offset somewhat by the fact that some of the birth control is condoms, which do tend to reduce disease. And Pro should point out that not getting pregnant is a benefit that, for many people, outweighs any increased risk of disease (else contraception would not increase disease. This is Con's strongest argument, though perhaps not very strong. But it wasn't effectively refuted by Pro. Advantage Con.
Pro gets a conduct point for Con's trumped-up claim that Pro called his father a murderer.
Again I will say I found this website when I needed to complete a persuasive essay. Unfortunately I chose this topic out of a list of things to choose from for my essay. I didn't even know what the web sit e was for other than to debate.
It is not perpetuating the issue when a first thought of this issue is teens do not need to be pregnant and most parents will not let their teenage girls get birth control because they do not want to condone the teens to have sex. The argument was supposed to state that teens are going to have sex any ways rarely anyone can get through their hard heads. So why not let them be responsible and be able to take get birth control any ways, to save the baby from a hard life?