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Terrorists should be subjected to torture. (new)

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Started: 3/19/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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cfasano310

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Terrorism is the largest threat to our national and personal security. The US has taken and is taking extreme militaristic measures to provide the people with safety and peace of mind. Terrorists being the scheming , horrible, disgusting, repulsive, grotesque, and mentally sick people, some manage to manipulate through the US border (some are already in it) and cause mass chaos, kill innocent people and ruin lives. The US have been able to capture many of these peasants who are connected to a larger network of shared information about terrorism and other future plans, such as where they intend on ammunition, who/where are their leaders and other information that could prevent future attacks and save countless lives. The only problem is, they are obviously not going to outright tell officials these things. perhaps one of the only ways to get this information out of them is torture. It has been established that these people are horrible and want to kill american lives, so if as a nation can not muster up the courage to inflict pain on a mass murderer to save at least a couple of American lives, then we should admit defeat.
BKL21996

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The use of torture in any case has always proved to be quite ineffective. It may lead the accused to admit information that is falsified just to stop the torture. There also proves to be a lack of means to perform such actions due to the extreme attrition rate of those who perform the torture, and also prove unnecessary due to the rate confessions are obtained when non-torturous methods are used, such as treating the prisoner humanely. We must not only be concerned with the the well-being of our country, but also with the mental and physical stability of possible informants, as well as our own troops. Torture may seem like an answer, but in the end, it is only as helpful as one believes it is, as false confessions and insanity due to the methods of torture prove to harm possible evidence that may have been gained.
Debate Round No. 1
cfasano310

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BKL21996

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It should be noted that not only are some forms of torture illegal under US law, but torture was made illegal under international law as well. Back in 1948, the United Nations added torture to the list of prohibited actions in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. In Article V of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, it states ""No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment." Also, for those who feel that this is overlooked in times of need, in the much more recent Initial Report of the United States to the U.N. Committee against Torture, it is stated that torture "is categorically denounced as a matter of policy and as a tool of state authority"No official of the government, federal, state or local, civilian or military, is authorized to commit or to instruct anyone else to commit torture. Nor may any official condone or tolerate torture in any form"Every act of torture within the meaning of the [Convention against Torture] is illegal under existing federal and state law, and any individual who commits such an act is subject to penal sanctions as specified in criminal statutes." It matters not whether the imprisoned be a foreigner or a United States citizen, the use of torture in all situations is strictly prohibited.

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Posted by Curran2015 2 years ago
Curran2015
I would have to say that I agree with the torture of terrorists to a relative degree. I believe it is ok to be used, if all else fails, to get some sort of lead to fallow. I do not believe that it should be the first route taken by federal forces to acquire info. Over all I would say that torture shouldn't be banned in any country, but rather there should be a process or checklist leading up to it.

Both of you have nice arguments over all and I can see why you each side the way that you do.
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