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kelseybear16
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Bricheze
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That, on balance, social networking Web sites have a positive impact on the United States

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/7/2008 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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kelseybear16

Con

Imagine a place where you realize your importance within the world, providing a sense of identity to live out your wildest dreams. That is the image that social networking sites want you to believe if you sign up. "It's a world where everything moves fast and changes all the time, where relationships are quickly disposed at the click of a mouse, where you can delete your profile if you don't like it and swap an unacceptable identity in the blink of an eye for one that is more acceptable." said Dr. Hinanshu Tyagi, a psychiatrist at West London Mental Health Trust. With lightening fast speeds, you can go just about anywhere on line. However, we seem to have forgotten the issue of safety, the way of communication, and just how fake our "friends" really are. When Tom first created Myspace, was it just a place for friends? Or did he not anticipate the largest social networking site?

Point one: Social networking sites are public, whether users realize it or not. The privacy setting are so permeable, and external access to the network is so easy, that the network is effectively an open site. A survey concluded more than 90% of Facebook participants had provided their full name, personal photo, date of birth, gender, and hometown. Just enough for anyone to steal your identity, or a on line predator to find you. Last year Myspace reported discovering the profiles of 29,000 sex offenders. There are about 600,000 convicted sex offenders living in the United States which means at least 5% were on Myspace. A survey of 935 students concluded that when contacted by a stranger, 65% deleted or ignored the contact, 21% of teen responded to get more information, 8% responded to tell the person to leave them alone, but only 3% of students took action such as blocking the individual from further contact.

Point two: Social networking sties are used by teen an average of one hour and 22 minutes every day. According to psychiatrists, the generation of young adults growing up with social networking Web sites "are unable to form lasting relationships and are at increased risk of behaving impulsively." Facebook and Myspace encourage the concept that relationships can be formed quickly and with minimal effort, and the same relationships can be ended by simply "deleting" a friend. While, Real-world relationships are more difficult to form as young adults struggle to understand body language, tone of voice, and facial expression. In addition, 56% of all teenagers have posted false information to their on line profiles. Obviously choosing their virtual friends over real friends, creating only relationships rooted in lies.

Point three: About 62% of teens on social networking sites have experience on line bullying. One example is the young thirteen year old Megan Meier. Like many teens Megan created a myspace, and soon met an attractive 16 year old boy named Josh Evans. They became friends and exchanged messages almost daily. Josh made Megan feel happy, belonged and beautiful. However, after weeks of messaging, Josh sent one message saying, "Everybody knows how you are. You are a bad person and everybody hates you. The world would be a better place without you." Once reading that, Megan responded saying, "You're the kind of boy a girl would kill herself over." Twenty minutes later, Megan was found dead hanging by the neck in her closet. Six weeks after the tragedy, Megan's parents found out that the "Josh Evans" was really a former friend's mother Lori Drew.

In the world where owning a myspace is more common than owning a dog, youth are enslaving their social lives to a computer screen and a keyboard. What they post today can end up somewhere tomorrow, to be used in way that was not intended. The protection of ones emotions and well being cannot be promised when a blog, bulletin, or message is sent. On balance, no one seems to be connected to the real world anymore. But why be shocked, when all you can type is, omg?
Bricheze

Pro

Social networking sites are not nearly as bad as my opponent entails. Because once again, we are blaming the websites and not the problem. It is very easy to make a profile become private, it can take under 20 seconds. Then you can chose who can see your profile, or set it up so a person has to enter your full name before they can veiw your profile. It is very easy to do, and as teenager I have seen a million presentations explaining why to do it and how to do it. If an adolescent is abducted because they failed to make their profile private, as easy as it is, it is that young adults and the abductors fault. Not the website.

An hour and 22 minutes is the average time a person will spend on these websites a day. But, is it really all that damaging? Let's look into a teens life, they wake up at 6: 30 go to school at 7:00, get out at 2: 30 (8 hours at school) when they arrive at home they probably grab a quick snack, and do their homework. (Which would take, on average and hour and a half) at 4:00 they are done with their homework, and go check their computer for some downtime. They spend and hour and a half (The average my opponent gave me) on their computer and get off around 5:30. They then have dinner for about an hour, and finish that at 6:30. Now they have over three and a half hours, to exercise, socialize, work, or read a book; before they have to get back to get the recommended 8 hours of sleep.Hardly seems deeply negative to me.

And social network sites can be good. Businesses encouraging employees to use networking technologies build relationships and closer links with colleagues and customers could help businesses rather than damage them. And they allow for diversity. I for one have two friends in Australia, one in Denmark, three in Canada, and over ten in different parts of America. I keep in touch with them through Facebook. Don't you think the youth today needs this kind of downtime, and exposure to diversity?
Debate Round No. 1
kelseybear16

Con

I have argued that social networking sites have only created an "illusion of privacy". Sites deserve blame for the widespread release of personal information. Why these security settings are so easy to get around is because strict privacy settings inhibit growth. The wider the access to information, the great the commercial value of the site.

Also, that hour and 22 minutes a day adds up. While teens are online, they are slowing breaking down their own communication skills. They can bounce around to any social networking site and "lol" all they want. While slowly any relationships they have formed in the real world begin to diminish. I noticed in my opponent's speech as she stated the "schedule" of a teenager. I failed to see that she mentioned time with friends, or socializing. That one hour and 22 minutes is the only socializing that seems to be getting done.

My opponent also brought up that social networking sites are good for businesses. However, according to a security company based in Australia, "if a single employee spends one hour of company time on Facebook everyday, it will cost his employer $6,200 per year. For Australia, that translate to a productivity lost of $5 billion annually. That impact in the United States would be even greater as Facebook usage in the United States is more widespread.

Again, no matter what they claim, security on social networking sites are not as strong as they appear. People, strangers can still get access to your information. Young people of today are destroying social attributes, slowly losing the basis of communication. If an hour of Facebook, can really cause a company to lose that much of it's money, it would have a more negative impact on our already struggling economy. On balance, we are showing more and more of what social networking sites are doing to our community, and it is not in a positive way.
Bricheze

Pro

"I noticed in my opponent's speech as she stated the "schedule" of a teenager. I failed to see that she mentioned time with friends, or socializing. That one hour and 22 minutes is the only socializing that seems to be getting done."

Actually, I gave three and half hours in which they easily could have gone to the movies, went to a party, a football game, cheerleading practice, etc. See from the quote from my little ‘speech':

"Now they have over three and a half hours, to exercise, socialize, work, or read a book"

And that schedule doesn't even include Saturdays and Sundays. Which are full days ready and open for plenty of socializing, doing chores, school projects, or anything else needing to be done.

"My opponent also brought up that social networking sites are good for businesses. However, according to a security company based in Australia, "if a single employee spends one hour of company time on Facebook everyday, it will cost his employer $6,200 per year. For Australia, that translate to a productivity lost of $5 billion annually. That impact in the United States would be even greater as Facebook usage in the United States is more widespread."

This would be true for some companies, but not ones where employees need a relationship with clients—where it is good for the companies. And companies that do not need this can make it impossible for you to visit Facebook—or any other website; by blocking those pages. And anyways, if they can't go to social-networking websites, they will probably do something else either then working. A person who spends 8 hours a day at work, could easily waste an hour of it just buy getting up and walking around for 10 minutes once an hour. And there are plenty of other websites to visit then social-networking ones. If you think this problem within companies lies solely on social networking websites, then you are simply wrong. It is poor web page blocking and bad discipline skills. Once again, the social-networking websites are not at fault.

"Again, no matter what they claim, security on social networking sites are not as strong as they appear."

Actually, unless if a sexual predator already knows what your first and last name is; they can't even send a message to you on myspace and if they do, they still need your specific permission to be allowed into your profile. You haven't named anyways that predators have gotten past these kinds of things. You have only claimed that they could. And if they do, people should realize that strangers could possibly get to their information, not the websites. It is the persons fault for putting their address on their unblocked profile: Not the websites. I don't know anyone who doesn't realize this. And if they don't that lies on their parents shoulders, for allowing them onto the internet and the social-networking website without warning them or understanding the ‘risks' involved.

Just because something is used in the problem, doesn't mean it is the problem. Social-networking sites can be used by predators to gain access to information, but that is not the social-networking websites fault. With a click of the mouse, your profile is private. And then to become a friend a person has to type in your first and last name, then their information is sent to you (their first and last name, and the state they live in) and then and only then can you accept them; and allow them to see your profile. Really, that seems pretty fool-proof; either then a person not setting their profile to private, but that is not the social-networking sites fault. And it really isn't fair to blame them; the way my opponent wants to.
Debate Round No. 2
kelseybear16

Con

"Now they have over three and a half hours, to exercise, socialize, work, or read a book"

I apologize for not seeing that the first time. However, many teenagers have jobs. When they get off work say around 10:00 PM and go home, they will most likely choose to check their myspace, facebook, beebo, etc. instead of doing their homework at night. A teens life isn't timed out perfectly.

"This would be true for some companies, but not ones where employees need a relationship with clients—where it is good for the companies."

I would like to hope that customers who are clients would want to talk to employees in person or on the phone. Considering, that social networking sites are the perfect place to lie about everything.

"You haven't named anyways that predators have gotten past these kinds of things."

Predators and identity thieves don't necessarily need special tools to get around blocks. All it takes is a little editing of information. Of course, no sane teenager is going to add a 40 year old man they've never met. However, that attractive blonde 17 year old boy, or that innocent looking 16 year old girl will get the add probably right away. Predators won't be honest, they will go to lengths to find and to get to know you.
Bricheze

Pro

"I apologize for not seeing that the first time. However, many teenagers have jobs. When they get off work say around 10:00 PM and go home, they will most likely choose to check their myspace, facebook, beebo, etc. instead of doing their homework at night. A teens life isn't timed out perfectly."

So because some teenagers have jobs that take up time. And sometimes they don't do there homework before or after work because of certain websites, we should blame the websites and shut them down from the use of everyone else? And not just simply blame the teenagers from procrastinating or not asking their work for extra time to do homework?

"I would like to hope that customers who are clients would want to talk to employees in person or on the phone. Considering, that social networking sites are the perfect place to lie about everything."

Not everyone has the time to meet in person. And on the phone you both have to be available at the same time. And considering that it is would be rather awkward to socially call and talk to a client just for the sake of connecting with them... it seems like it would be much easier to send them a few messages online. You can lie just as well in person and on the phone then you can on the computer. And once again you are blaming the websites for giving the people the ability to lie, rather then blaming the people for lying.

"Predators won't be honest, they will go to lengths to find and to get to know you."

As a teenager I have told you that I have seen a million presentations at my school about social net-working sites. They told me, as well as you, that predators will pretend to be teenagers. So if you don't know them; don't add them. Simple as that. And if you do add them it is your or your informers problem (guardians, schools, etc for not forwarning you) that you added them; not the websites.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by MeganLoaskia 7 years ago
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wow
cons arguement really intrested me i loved " WHY be so shocked when you can just type omg" Loved that , very compelling :)
Although i initally agrred with pro i do believe con made the best arguement
but u both did well :)
Posted by kelseybear16 8 years ago
kelseybear16
I'd like to thank my opponent for a great debate. Good job Bricheze.
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