The Instigator
Depravity
Pro (for)
The Contender
Haruko75
Con (against)

The 2nd Amendment is Necessary to Keep a Free Society Free

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Started: 12/30/2016 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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Depravity

Pro

Round one is for acceptance only. All other rounds for debate in no specific form.

I will be taking the pro 2nd amendment stance. I will argue that guns and the 2nd amendment are definitely needed to keep a free society free. Con will argue against the 2nd amendment, or at the very least, pro gun control in some form. In short, con will argue that guns and the 2nd amendment have no place in a free and civilized modern society, or will argue that some form of gun control is needed.

I look forward to the debate.
Haruko75

Con

I am an ardent supporter of the anti-gun ownership movement and believe that the 2nd amendment is not fundamental to American society. In this debate I will argue in opposition to the importance of the 2nd amendment to the freedom of society.
Debate Round No. 1
Depravity

Pro

"The 2nd amendment was created with muskets in mind."

This is a common argument anti 2nd amendment advocates like to use to prove their point that the 2nd amendment has no place in our society. The problem with this argument is there is no mention of muskets in the 2nd amendment. The 2nd amendment was created with the protection of the country's citizens in mind and when the enemy has an AR-15 pointed in your direction you don't counter with a front load powder musket.

Our founding fathers knew this. They were not stupid. The advancement of weaponry has always been considerable and quick. The Bill of Rights was adopted on December 15, 1791 at the time that the "Brown Bess" long muzzle rifle was the common musket in use. This rifle shot a single ball or a cluster shot with multiple projectiles similar to a shotgun style. They were rather heavy and were difficult to carry around. https://en.wikipedia.org...

Guns made a quick advancement through the 1800's and were becoming stronger, quicker, and much more powerful overall. Weapons in general continued to advance quickly. http://www.militaryfactory.com...

If the 2nd amendment was created by our founding fathers with only muskets in mind, the 2nd amendment would have been pretty much worthless and irrelevant by the mid 1800's; pretty much only 2-3 generations after the adoption of the Bill of Rights. Our founding fathers definitely would not have done this. Screw you, grandchildren, right?

"If we didn't have the 2nd amendment in the Constitution, we wouldn't have average citizens carrying guns around and there would be less gun violence."

Another big argument by anti-2nd amendment advocates. I've heard this one many times and have been accused of supporting gun violence because I don't agree with this sentiment.

The Revolutionary War was won in large part because of the 2nd amendment. With an armed populace it was extremely difficult for the British to invade and advance. Ordinary citizens were able to properly protect themselves from the enemy when the military was not around to do so. "...a well regulated militia..."

Now let's fast forward to present day America. The majority of deadly shootings occur in "gun free" zones where the opportunity to protect yourself is significantly reduced because guns are not allowed. Most mass shootings are carried out on school campuses, in government buildings and properties, and even nightclubs, where the Orlando shooting took place recently. All of these places were supposed "gun free" zones.

The Revolutionary War was fought and won with guns. The Civil War was fought with guns and slaves were eventually freed because of guns. And it wasn't just the U.S. military that fought these wars.

The 2nd amendment was written and adopted because our founding fathers knew that in order to keep a country free from tyranny and oppression from its very own government, it needed a way for its citizens to protect themselves should that government overstep their bounds. The reason this country has its freedoms is due to the 2nd amendment and its power that grants us our basic freedoms.
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Posted by Depravity 1 year ago
Depravity
I guess my opponent decided not to debate. I'm guessing I won't be getting the automatic win for this one, though.
Posted by John_C_1812 1 year ago
John_C_1812
The following is a State of the Union in given to preserve, protect and defend the United States Constitution.
Posted by John_C_1812 1 year ago
John_C_1812
There is a basic principle behind every Amendment to the United States Constitution. There is a basic principle behind the United States Constitution.

Gun ownership is not that principle behind the writing of the Second Amendment. There for the removal of the 2nd Amendment will not limit the "Inalienable Right" behind the Constitutional ownership of a fire-Arm.

What does this mean? The 2nd Amendment describes how a person who is given an open right to voter, can then use that right as a weapon. A weapon equal, greater, and less than any other weapon known. It is for this reason and this reason alone that a Common defense and tranquility and General welfare provided by the Non-biased separation of the United States Constitution might want or need to be followed. As there are two forms of separation provide with in the United States Constitution, and both can be incriminating to the people who form choice and cast vote.

The 2nd Amendment can perform Constitutional separation between different forms of Murder, theft, and deception as it relates to groups of people and not one person. The United States Constitution governs the liberty described in a declaration of independence.

For people can only know possess liberty and not freedom as an inalienable right. As the word freedom by principle is the removal of all self-worth and relates to things that do not think, comprehend, and reason. Which does by fact also serve as a governing agent of some people.
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