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Trombonist
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"The Adventures of Stringman" is the best Orchestra song of all time

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Trombonist
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/26/2014 Category: Music
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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9spaceking

Pro

"The Adventures of Stringman", by Richard Meyer, in opinion is the best orchestra song of all time. It's heroic, has a nice theme, funny to watch and fun to play, being very unpredictable as well! It starts off with the low notes, adding on the other sections, soaring upwards, only to come back down and go straight to the melody. The transitions are very nicely done, and not only do violins get the melody, the cellos get a chance too. The dramatic ending adds a nice touch to the whole song.
Accept the challenge if you dare.
But before you accept, listen to it here: http://www.jwpepper.com...
Trombonist

Con

For this debate, I will be stating that my opponent has issued a state of absolute superiority and that this is an opinionated statement. I would like to point out to the voters that if they have an orchestration that they enjoy more than "The Adventures of Stringman," then my opponent's statement has been proved false. While I can agree that "The Adventures of Stringman" is a fantastic and entertaining composition, I would like to present several other pieces that are also fantastic compositions and have the voters decide if any one of my several pieces of evidence is superior to my opponent's chosen piece. I would like to challenge my opponent to describe why the piece is superior to these.
Vivaldi- The Four Seasons
https://www.youtube.com...

Bach"Brandenburg Concerto No. 2
https://www.youtube.com...

Haydn"Symphony No. 104
https://www.youtube.com...

Mozart"Symphony in C Major, "Jupiter"
https://www.youtube.com...
Debate Round No. 1
9spaceking

Pro

Classic songs may be good, but they can't be the modernized stringman.
I argue that although these classical pieces, although may hold beauty within them, are no better than Adventures of Stringman. All of these are very very long, tiring for the orchestra to play and although it might hold the audience's attention, if put any one of these within a program with other pieces, the orchestra simply will be unable to play them all.
Four Seasons: 42 minutes long!! Even if played only one season, it is still very tiring, while stringman is very exciting and relatively easy to play, being only in a 3 to 4 minute range.
Symphony No. 104--I played this in orchestra class. Although the beginning might be cool and the happy light theme returns, similar to stringman, stringman has the unpredictability and fun that Symphony No. 104 simply cannot achieve. Stringman's heroic theme combined with the contrast of the bad playing and the amazing solos, plus the clarinet breaking, has a whole new level.
Trombonist

Con

I feel that I can put your criticisms into three points. Difficulty, length, and fatigue.

I have been to my fair share of orchestra concerts, and I can tell you that they are usually around two to three hours, so forty two minutes isn't that big of a deal.

At a college level of musicianship, people usually practice two to three hours as a minimum, so I don't think a two hour concert is going to cause the professional musicians too much fatigue.

Finally, the difficulty shouldn't be a problem on a professional level, and most musicians at that level enjoy a challenge.

I believe that I have a better understanding of your taste in an orchestration. I would like to present two more orchestrations. He's a Pirate is clearly more exciting, and the Superman Theme is more heroic. I would like to challenge you to explain why these are inferior to Stringman.

Superman Theme - Simon Bolivar Symphony Orchestra
http://youtu.be...

He's a Pirate- Hans Zimmer
http://youtu.be...
Debate Round No. 2
9spaceking

Pro

9spaceking forfeited this round.
Trombonist

Con

I would like to refer everyone to the comments section as my opponen has made his final round.

In closing, I believe a song should not be measured by difficulty, length, or how fun it may be to play. It should be based on how it is crafted, how intricate it is, and basically how good it sounds. The Adventures of Stringman may be a good piece for a high school orchestra, but when compared to the great composers such as Vivaldi, Bach, Zimmer, or Williams, it simply can't stack up. Those songs are classics and will be remembered for years to come. That is because those songs are masterpieces that are masterfully crafted. The Adventures of Stringman may be entertaining, but it doesn't have the substance that all of those other pieces have.

I would like to thank my opponent for a great debate and I look forward to the results.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by 9spaceking 3 years ago
9spaceking
:( now Ima lose for sure.
I was gonna say "stringman is more fun than these" and that "stringman is more unpredictable", "stringman wraps up quite nicely, with the violins on the highnotes and the cellos playing a variation of the original theme. I didn't have enough time though. Ah well.
Posted by 9spaceking 3 years ago
9spaceking
GAHHH!!! How did I miss the third round??
Posted by 9spaceking 3 years ago
9spaceking
err... round 2 I meant "beat", but "be" seems to make some sense.
Posted by Polevaulter1 3 years ago
Polevaulter1
looks like a good debate, looking forward to see what con brings up
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