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Esiar
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JKL
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The Bible Teaches People Can Stop Sinning

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Esiar
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Started: 2/4/2015 Category: Religion
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Esiar

Pro

Put your refutation & proofs of your side in Round 1.

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1 Corinthians 10:13 says - "There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it."

Christians can endure temptation. They don't have to fall into it.

John 8:34-36 - "Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed."

The Son (Jesus Christ) can set people free from bondage to sin.
JKL

Con

Kilowatt of kilobier
Debate Round No. 1
JKL

Con

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Debate Round No. 2
Esiar

Pro

:-|

Easy to read.
JKL

Con

Kilowatt of kilobier
Debate Round No. 3
JKL

Con

your debate title isn't even a sentence
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by rextr05 2 years ago
rextr05
'to sin' is an act one participates in. a verb in this case.
'of sin' is a product of it. a noun.
'sin's bondage' is also a product. adjective & noun.
therefore, to sin is a volitional choice made by the sinner ...... the act to sin.
of sin in this case is that man is no longer bound by the effects of sin, meaning there is God's forgiveness rather than being in the 'state of perpetual sin. Sin can be forgiven, that is. Same thing with sin's bondage. It loses its stranglehold on man & therefore we can refuse to sin knowing right from wrong so-to-speak.
Posted by Esiar 2 years ago
Esiar
@Rextr05

"Esiar, You say "The Son (Jesus Christ) can set people free from bondage to sin," rather than "of sin," or sin's bondage" making your statement false. Big difference."

I don't see the big difference.

Christ can set you free from bondage to sin.
Christ can set you free from the bondage of sin
Christ can set you free from sin's bondage.

Same meaning IMO.
Posted by Esiar 2 years ago
Esiar
@Ozzyhead
What you said is nonsense.

If we had no option to do bad, there would be no true goodness in us. If he created no punishment for bad, he would be evil.

As for, "You don't need a book to tell you to do good or else.", this also makes no sense. Why do Atheists think Theists think like this? WE DON'T. We don't believe Atheists have no sense of morality, or are bad because they don't believe in God.
Posted by rextr05 2 years ago
rextr05
Ozzy, Did God create sin as you contend, or did He just define it after seeing that people needed moral compass? If you are to believe or use the bible as a reference, as you seem to do, you'll see that God had put man in a paradise in harmony with man. Man initiated sin by breaking harmony, therefore injuring & exposing right from wrong cuz until then only 'right' was known.

I agree with your assessment of the inherent knowledge of right from wrong. Man makes his own choices & therefore is either right or wrong depending on the laws of the culture/country he resides & that inherent moral compass.
Posted by rextr05 2 years ago
rextr05
Esiar, You say "The Son (Jesus Christ) can set people free from bondage to sin," rather than "of sin," or sin's bondage" making your statement false. Big difference.
Posted by Ozzyhead 2 years ago
Ozzyhead
The bible is the cause of sin. God created the rules that dictate heaven and earth. He created sin. He created the punishments for sins. So he is ultimately responsible for sin. If he never created sin and just said "always love your neighbor" everything would be okay. You don't need a book to tell you to do good or else. You need a psychiatrist if you can't figure out why killing is wrong
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