The Bible is Immoral
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I will begin my argument on the immorality of the bible when someone accepts my challenge.
Reason 1) The bible like any other religous text teaches you not to question. It premotes the idea that there is no need fo further englighment. That there is one answer to every situation. This causes reasders to ignorant because they live in a world where they couldn't pisssibly be wrong.
Reason 2) The way the bible carries out situations. For example if your gay you must be stoned to death, but everyone's already aware on that one. Lets look at some others. In Deternomy 28 the bible explain that a man that has forced a women to have sex with him must pay her father 50 pieces of silver and then marry her. In Deuternomy 23 it speaks that a man whose had his penis cut off is not to be included among to lords people. Why is this even here? Why is that even a rule, why is it a rule? Another more rediculous and cruel law is rests in deuteronomy 23:2 where no person born out of wedlock or destants of such may enter the kingdom of the lord. I rest my case for this. I'll speak more about in my next arguement.
Reason 3) The God of the bible acts more like the devil than lucifer himself. Genesis 7:21-23 God drowns the hole earth killing millions upon millions and afterwards the demi-god Jesus in Matthew 24:37-42 states he agreed with the gendcide and he plans to repeat it upon his return to earth. Numbers 16:41-49 The isrealites tell god that he's killing to many of them, and then sends a plague to kill more of them. 2 Kings 1:9-10 God kills 51 men to prove he's god.
People who attempt to use the Bible as a guide for their lives are not immoral if they want to better the conditions for themselves and their loved ones in life and the hereafter. Neither are they illogical if their choice has proven sufficient unto them.
Response to Reason #1./
Someday you may realize the truth in "Ignorance is bliss" and then not be so quick to judge those who appear to lead happy, productive lives in a state of near ignorance, which is the case for most of us anyway.
Response to Reason#2./
Most of the Old Testament books are accounts of people who felt an unearthly power come upon them. In this respect these books are accounts of the Christs who preceded Jesus, in my opinion, and their conditioning to the times they lived in is seen in the virtues they promoted. Even today we can see from old black&white movies how much morals have changes in the last 60 years, so you'll understand how much different they were thousands of years ago. Okay! I've made your argument for you, but Christians generally agree with the New Testament which you may agree is somewhat different. Christian denominations disagree amongst themselves also and it remains an uphill struggle for many of us to battle our lower instincts.
Response to Reason #3./
The Bible informs us that there are more than one God. Personally I find it amazing that after going thru so much evidence of the power of their God the Israelites quickly worship a golden calf while Moses is getting the stone tablets.
If anything out of the ordinary happens to me and leads me to believe that worshipping a golden calf is going to better life for me I'd probably do it- threats of hell notwithstanding. The thing is we're just not used to experiencing the power of Gods to make us believe things we might normally reject. So, yeah, reject all that nonsense from thousands of years ago when entertainment was sparse and old-age unlikely.
2) I see so you don't want to look at the old testament? Well that's fine, there's plenty of immoral things in the New Testament.
Corinthians 14:34 here we're introduced to the bible being misogynistic, as it says women are forbidden to speak in the church. James 5:14 you should not get a doctor, instead you should pray instead of actually getting the help you require. This passage is what most likely brought a few parents to reject taking their children to doctors and instead pray the disease away. Philemon 1:12 The bible supports you getting your slaves back.
3) I really don't have anything to say to your position on that. Actually that's very interesting I was under the impression that you should have no other gods but I ran into an article stating there's 2 sets of the ten commandments. This is interesting.
I grant that the morals of two thousand years past appear harsh to today's enlightened youth.
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Vote Placed by Ajabi 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: This was one of the worst debates I have ever read, the burden of proof was in any case on the Proposition. I feel that Pro did sufficiently give some evidence of immorality within the Bible but he did not clarify why these things are immoral, and they do not seem self evident. Even then I think Con did worse, and did not appropriately reply to the arguments given. I would have given S/G to Con but as this is a Select Winner I vote Pro. Happy to clarify this RFD.
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