The Instigator
DoctorOctogonapus
Pro (for)
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The Contender
phantom
Con (against)
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38 Points

The Bible is the word of God and is a scientific document

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phantom
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 7/8/2012 Category: Religion
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (2)
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DoctorOctogonapus

Pro

First round is for acceptance.
Debate Round No. 1
DoctorOctogonapus

Pro

1: The Bible is the word of God.

2: We know the Bible is the word of God because it says it is.

3: We know the Bible is true because it is the word of God.

4: Therefore, as it was written by an omniscient being, it must be scientific.
phantom

Con

Well, in a world where bare assertions were equal to argumentative logic, my opponent would be making a wonderful case. Unfortunately we actually live in a world where logical statements must be matched with reasoning and evidence.


My opponents deeply circular reasoning makes me wander if he's even the least bit serious. He states that the Bible is the word of God because God said so. Well obviously we now have to establish both the validity and existence of God. Unfortunately my opponent points to the Bible as a source. In other words the Bible's trustworthiness proves God and God proves the Bibles trustworthiness. Now there is a simple method of logic to refute my esteemed opponents argument. It's called baby logic. Baby logic is the most obvious forms of logic that no-one would disagree with. The law that circular reasoning is invalid is one of these self-evident facts. A cannot prove b while b is what proves a. Do I need go further?
Debate Round No. 2
1 comment has been posted on this debate.
Posted by waterskier 5 years ago
waterskier
then pro must also be every other religion that has a holy book.
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Vote Placed by waterskier 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: I don't think I have to explain myself
Vote Placed by Stephen_Hawkins 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Checkmate, atheists!
Vote Placed by AlwaysMoreThanYou 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro supposedly had some sort of burden of proof, which he completely failed to meet.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro uses circular reasoning and Con points this out. I dont think Pro is serious about this debate.
Vote Placed by ceruleanpolymer 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con demonstrated circular reasoning, thus deconstructing Pros case.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro's argument was weak at best. Con only needed to point out the circular reasoning to win (which he did). Conduct for Con as it did not appear that Pro was interested in a serious debate.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro used circular reasoning, which con easily handled and made it obsolete. Also, Pro used an 'unreliable' source.
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Reasons for voting decision: Circular reasoning used by Pro. Con wins.