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PhysicistandMathematician
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The Big Bang may have occured

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PhysicistandMathematician
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/15/2013 Category: Science
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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PhysicistandMathematician

Pro

Rules:

1) Con will argue in favor of the resolution that the Big Bang did not occur, as its mainpoints may not be inherent from a religious standpoint, scientific facts, etc.

2) No trolling.

3) Con shall type "No arguments shall be made as agreed upon" at round 4.

4) Please suppress your anger.

Failure to follow these rules will result in a 7 point forfeiture.
PwningEinstein

Con

"1. According to the laws of thermodynamics (Conservation of energy[1], in particular), energy can neither be created, nor can be destroyed.

2. If statement #1 is true, then energy must be finite.

3. The Sun needs energy.

4. If statement #3 is true, and the mass and energy is filling up those spaces, how does the Sun have energy?
Debate Round No. 1
PhysicistandMathematician

Pro

Rebuttals:

1. Indeed. According to the laws of thermodynamics (Conservation of energy[1], in particular), energy can neither be created, nor can be destroyed.

2. Just because #1 is true, does not mean that energy is finite. I believe energy is finite, though.

3. Obviously, the Sun needs energy to fuse and transfer through space to Earth (Radiation). That solar energy then turns into heat. However, the Sun itself? No.

4. Like said, #3 isn't true.

Also, mass does not fill up those spaces. Solid objects are dense. Matter is very compact, in which it does not have space to freely move. However, gases do. It has space to freely move, in which they do. Same goes for our Universe.

Sources:

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org...
PwningEinstein

Con

PwningEinstein forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
PhysicistandMathematician

Pro

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PwningEinstein

Con

PwningEinstein forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
PhysicistandMathematician

Pro

PhysicistandMathematician forfeited this round.
PwningEinstein

Con

PwningEinstein forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by lit.wakefield 2 years ago
lit.wakefield
Would you care to explain why? I would happily debate you on that exact claim. @SubterFugitive

Interesting how Pwning Einstein is now con http://www.debate.org...
Posted by SubterFugitive 2 years ago
SubterFugitive
Big bang (Friedmann - Lemaitre model) fits way way better within a theistic framework than it would an atheistic one... that's why I ask.
Posted by Scientia 2 years ago
Scientia
PhysicistandMathematician has pretension all around him.
Posted by dtaylor971 2 years ago
dtaylor971
Anything may have occurred. Unless CON literally disproves the whole theory, pro wins.
Posted by AbhijeetWatts 2 years ago
AbhijeetWatts
The motion here is this; THBT the Big Bang may have occurred. Pro must argue for the reasons why the Big Bang may have occurred and Con must argue for why it may have not occurred. You should make it clear that both sides do accept that the possibility that the Big Bang may/may not have occurred. Please make this point very clear or change the motion itself to, perhaps, this: THBT the Big Bang occurred. Then it makes sense that Con must make substantives which completely disagree with the Big Bang. I would accept this debate but I'm an advocate of the Big Bang Theory so that's a bit sad.
Posted by lit.wakefield 2 years ago
lit.wakefield
I'm not religious. Ask a religious person (unless you're being sarcastic).
Posted by SubterFugitive 2 years ago
SubterFugitive
why on earth would religious folk be opposed to the big bang?
Posted by lit.wakefield 2 years ago
lit.wakefield
It would be interesting to see one of these were person in opposition was genuinely opposed and not religious.
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Vote Placed by SPENCERJOYAGE14 2 years ago
SPENCERJOYAGE14
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