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waselkli
Pro (for)
The Contender
jo154676
Con (against)

The Browns clearly will not win a single game for the rest of the season.

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Started: 11/21/2016 Category: Sports
Updated: 1 week ago Status: Debating Period
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waselkli

Pro

The Browns clearly will not win a single game for the rest of this 2016 NFL season. They are already 0-11 and have a good chance to reach 0-16.

http://www.espn.com...
jo154676

Con

Yes it is true that the browns have yet to win a game this season, however they have competed in all of their games and I think they will win at least one game by the end of the season. I believe that the team has a fair chance to beat either the bengals or the chargers.
Debate Round No. 1
waselkli

Pro

The Browns do have a chance to beat the Bengals and the Chargers, as they are not doing very well, either. But still, the Browns are dead last in the NFL rankings, and the Chargers and Bengals have still won 4 and 3 games, respectively.

The Browns have an under 50% chance to win every upcoming game. The Giants, who the Browns are most likely to beat, with an under 35% chance, are posting a winning record, and the Steelers just blew the crap out of the Browns. The Browns' second most likely win is against the Bengals, and even so, the Bengals have a much better roster. In the game against the Chargers, the quarterback should do a lot better on the road, and the Chargers were 3-2 in their last 5 games. The Bills have an excellent defense, and the Steelers have beat the Browns their more than 5th consecutive time.

That was the breakdown for why the Browns will lose every matchup.

http://www.bettingsports.com...

http://www.nfl.com...
jo154676

Con

Your source is outdated and the newest one has the bengals as the team they are most likely to beat, especially now that AJ Green is out for the season. Also you are not accounting for the fact that in sports upsets happen. The Browns lowest chance of winning is against the bills at 10.7 percent, but that bills team got beat up by the 3-7 jets and gave up 374 yards to Ryan Fitzpatrick who is now benched. Also upsets happen when you least expect them, take last year in the NCAA tournament. Michigan State the 2 seed was beaten in the first round by Middle Tennessee, which was picked in .5% of brackets. So the Browns are not "clearly" going to win a single game this season.
Debate Round No. 2
waselkli

Pro

You are right on that, but the Browns just got whomped by a team with a losing record! Also, they lost to 3 other teams that currently have losing records and 4 times against teams that currently have even records (same amount of wins and losses). Their chance of losing all 16 games has risen sharply, now about 15%, which this figure was about 3% just two weeks ago. But all of their opponents are playoff contenders, except for the Chargers, so these teams will play as best as they can to win their games. All of these teams are better than the Browns anyway, and they all have better rosters. You are right that an upset can happen at any game, but when a heavy underdog that is over by 15 or more points is playing, that team only wins about 5% of the time in the NFL. This underdog winning percentages are much lower in the NFL than in, say, the NHL. You're right that it's not clear yet if the Browns will lose every single game, but they have a very good chance.
jo154676

Con

They did not get whomped I watched the game they had a drive at the end of the game where they could have scored and were around the 10 yard line. And this team with a losing record that you talk about has a 2 time super bowl champion qb and the best rb in the league and the best wr in the league ao do not try and play them off as a bad team. You state that their chances of losing out are 15% so how can you say that they are clearly going to lose out? You just unraveled you own argument. Also they may have a decent chance of facing a team week 16 or 17 that has clinched a playff spot so it is resting its starters allowing them to win with ease.
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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by LulzCAtz 1 week ago
LulzCAtz
I read that very differently.
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