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iWest3
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wesswll
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The Chicago Blackhawks are the best professional ice hockey team right now of 2010.

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Started: 6/13/2010 Category: Sports
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Voting Period
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iWest3

Pro

Just look who won the Cup!
wesswll

Con

I thank my opponent and wish him good luck. This is my first debate.

Just because a team wins the championship for their sport, they are not always the best team. Upsets do happen, as do injuries. Also, I will point out that the Blackhawks were not the first seed in their bracket, which suggests that over a stretch of time longer than four games, the San Jose Sharks out performed the Hawks. I also contend that the Washington Capitals are a better team, losing to Montreal only through a stroke of luck for the Canadian team much unanticipated. I believe Alexander Ovechkin would have played like he always does and lead the Capitals to a cup victory.
Debate Round No. 1
iWest3

Pro

You very well recognized some very good points, but I will let you know something. You probably did not watch the Stanley Cup Playoffs 2010, so you did not see that the Chicago Blackhawks defeated the Nashville Predators, the Vancouver Canucks, and the San Jose Sharks. The Sharks were defeated in only four (4) games, and San Jose was ranked number one (1) throuout the entire Stanley Cup Playoffs. The Chicago Blackhawks, which were ranked number two (2), took a grip on the Stanley Cup Finals in the minimum required amount of games, four (4). Once in the Stanley Cup Finals, the third largest city supported their team at home, the United Center, where the Hawks and Philadelphia Flyers both put a large number of pucks in eachother's nets on May 29, 2010. The final score was six to five (6-5). The next game, which was two days later on May 31, 2010, the Flyers stayed in their hotel, while the Hawks were at home. Another interesting, high-scoring game, right? Wrong. The final score was two to one (2-1). Number ten (10) Patrick Sharp had a chance to put the game away when he fired a cannonball at the Flyer's empty net. The Flyers got off lucky as the speeding slapshot ricocheted off of the left post, well left of Leighton. So, that's two down, two to go for the Hawks, four to go for the number seven (7) team from the fifth largest American city. So, Chicago and Philly face off at the Wachovia Center in Pennsylvania. On June 2, 2010 at 8:00 Eastern Time, the puck was dropped center ice and with Home Ice Advantage, Philadelphia came through for their fans and took the win from the second seed on the second (6-2-10) and also on the fourth (6-4-10). The series was tied two games to two games (2-2). Now it is back to the Windy City for game five (5). The most goals scored in the finals so far was game one (1) with a total of eleven points. Six were by the Hawks and the rest, or five (5), were by the Philly team. Looking for the third win and breaking that record. Back at the United Center, the Hawks united and tied the record with a final score of seven to four (7-4). That's three wins for the Illinois team. Three days later on June 9, 2010, Chicago looked to "seal the deal" and kiss the Cup. In a sudden-death overtime, number eighty-eight (88) right-winger Patrick Kane drove the puck to the left of the net and used all 180 pounds and 5'10" to try to win game six (6), and he succeeded. The shot aimed at hole number five (5) of Michael Leighton, the Flyer's goaltender, and the puck sailed through the legs and into the white-string checkerboard. In Philly's house, the red and black team said "forget winning at Lake Michicgan" defeated the orange and black team inside of their boards four to three (4-3) and passed around the cup. Players like Patrick Kane, Patrick Sharp, Jonathan Toews (C), Dustin Byfuglien, Duncan Keith and his seven missing teeth, Dave Bolland, Troy Brouwer, Tomas Kopecky, John Madden, Andrew Ladd, Marian Hossa, and goalie Antti Niemi. The Blackhawks got their first Stanley Cup win since 1961. Keeping the plethora of information in mind, the Chicago Blackhawks are the best professional ice hockey team in the American National Hockey League of 2010.
wesswll

Con

I would like to thank my opponent for his argument.

"The Sharks were defeated in only four (4) games, and San Jose was ranked number one (1) throuout the entire Stanley Cup Playoffs."
This would make it seem as if the Blackhawks were superior to the Sharks. However, as already stated, the Sharks out performed the Blackhawks over a longer period of time, which I believe to be a better indicator of how good a team is. Also, just because the Blackhawks beat the Sharks, it does not always mean they are better. If San Jose won all of their games in the regular season, losing only the four times they played Chicago, and the Blackhawks lost all their games, winning only the four times they played San Jose, it would be clear that the Sharks were a much better team. Just remember that head-to-head is not always, and I believe not in this case, the best indicator of which team is better.

However, let's just say for the sake of argument that the Blackhawks are better than the Sharks. They are still not better, in my opinion, then Washington, who came into the playoffs leading the NHL in points, wins, goals, and goals for-goals against difference. They also had the least amount of losses.(1) They also beat the Blackhawks under the categories of: save percentage(2), goals against per game(3), and power play percentage(4).

With this in mind, the rest of my opponent's argument becomes void, as he is arguing that the Blackhawks are better than a team that I never claimed were as good as the Hawks in the first place.

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Debate Round No. 2
iWest3

Pro

Thank you for responding and stating your argument without any insults nor profanity. The video game NHL 2010 by Electronic Arts SPORTS, has indeed a Blackhawk on the cover. The cover is right-winger Patrick Kane. That's funny. Why didn't EA SPORTS use a San Jose Shark? Well, even before the Stanley Cup Playoffs started this year, EA said they thought the Pittsburgh Penguins would win their second consecutive Stanley Cup, and how Chicago would "fall just short of the win" and how "Patrick Kane shouldn't be on the cover, but he is still very talented". Patrick Kane is the youngest player in franchise history to ever be on the cover. At the age of 20 years, the lefty delivered a win to the WINdy city. Five Chicago Blackhawks started at the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver this January, and Patrick Kane had a hat trick (three, 3, goals in one game) in the game which sent USA to the final game against Canada. No Shark nor Capital had a hat trick. Only a Chicago Blackhawk.
wesswll

Con

I would like to thank my opponent for a much enjoyable first debate.

"The video game NHL 2010 by Electronic Arts SPORTS, has indeed a Blackhawk on the cover. The cover is right-winger Patrick Kane."
This is irrelevant, as a video game cover does not decide who is the best. They decide who they think is best.

"Well, even before the Stanley Cup Playoffs started this year, EA said they thought the Pittsburgh Penguins would win their second consecutive Stanley Cup, and how Chicago would "fall just short of the win" "
Again, irrelevant. As my earlier round states, the championship team is not always the best team.

" Five Chicago Blackhawks started at the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver this January, and Patrick Kane had a hat trick (three, 3, goals in one game) in the game which sent USA to the final game against Canada. No Shark nor Capital had a hat trick. Only a Chicago Blackhawk."
This too is off topic. We are not talking about the Olympics, we are talking about the National Hockey League. The Blackhawks mayhave some excellent players, but so do other teams, and good players do not always make a good team. In this case they do make a good team, just not the best team.

Thank you again to my opponent for the debate.
Debate Round No. 3
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