The Instigator
erost07
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The Contender
jh1234l
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28 Points

The Church is the only way that will drive America to get back up again

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jh1234l
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/28/2013 Category: Society
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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erost07

Pro

The Church as a whole (Ecclesia-Biblical Church) has fallen asleep. People should know that by now. Because of the church, taxes and welfare had come into place including legalized abortion, no mention of God in public schools, words have to be just and fair, homosexuality is approved by the government, and equality among men and women. The only way for America to truly be stable again is if the Church wakes up and does it job.
jh1234l

Con

Because of the church (falling asleep), taxes and welfare had come into place including legalized abortion, no mention of God in public schools, words have to be just and fair, homosexuality is approved by the government, and equality among men and women. The only way for America to truly be stable again is if the Church wakes up and does it job.

1. My opponent has failed to prove that these are, on balance, bad for the U.S.

2. He has also not proven that these are caused by the church falling asleep. Just because they happen in the same time period does not mean one caused the other.

He is making a fallacy by equating corelation with causation. Let's say that you ate an apple and then got hit by a car. The apple did not nesscarily cause the car to hit you, even though it happened before getting hit by a car. You need extra proof to show that the apple was indeed the cause.

In this case, you need additional proof to show that the Church not doing its job is what caused all these.

My opponent fails to meet his burden of proof/division of labour until he gives addition arguments.

Debate Round No. 1
erost07

Pro

erost07 forfeited this round.
jh1234l

Con

extend all arguments.
Debate Round No. 2
erost07

Pro

erost07 forfeited this round.
jh1234l

Con

Extend all arguments.
Debate Round No. 3
erost07

Pro

erost07 forfeited this round.
jh1234l

Con

jh1234l forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
erost07

Pro

erost07 forfeited this round.
jh1234l

Con

extend all arguments.
Debate Round No. 5
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Vote Placed by Luggs 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Conduct because of Pro FF. Arguments for, well, better arguments.
Vote Placed by Magic8000 4 years ago
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Vote Placed by SuperiorArsenal 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Effortless win. Not that I think Pro would have won if had actually debated though.
Vote Placed by bbowhan 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro FAIL.
Vote Placed by Jarhyn 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: pro Forfeit