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Killerchicken12
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SeanTheRanger
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The Civil war was not completely over slavery

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Started: 6/2/2016 Category: Politics
Updated: 8 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Killerchicken12

Pro

Round 1: acceptance
Round 2: Opening statements
Round 3: Rebuttals
Round 4: Rebuttal of Rebuttals and closing statements

Sources are not needed, but if statistics are questionable, we can call BS. No Racism or Nazi-Comparisons.

Good luck!
SeanTheRanger

Con

It was mostly about states rights not slavery. All the states in the south consisting of Texas,Virginia,North Carolina,South Carolina,Florida, Georgia,Tennessee, Alabama,Louisiana, Arkansas,Mississippi. Out of those 12 states only 1 percent of the population of the south had slaves while the other 99 never had slaves and that percent wanted to succeed from the Union because they did not trust the Federal government at all. So in reality The Civil War was over states rights and not Slavery.
Debate Round No. 1
Killerchicken12

Pro

You do realize that the Statement we are debating is: "The Civil war was not completely over Slavery". I am Pro (or For) this statement, and you are Con (Against) this statement. Therefore you have the roles reversed.

I have also seen multiple mistakes with your argument. I am planning to become a Historian, and have argued and researched this topic immensely.

1- States Rights were a big part of the Civil war, but Not the Only one. for some of our viewers who do not know, States rights does NOT refer to someone's rights to own a slave. It refers to the State's right to defy the Government when it possibly does something illogical. If the government tells California to demobilize it's Militia, close all of it's industries, The state of California has a right to defy these orders, as they are un-constitutional and tyrannical (Hence State's rights). The North had long asserted that THEY alone represented the only credible piece of Government, and soon took control after 5 long decades of Checks and Balances. because Mr. Lincoln did not represent the South, and attempted to Force Southern states to invade it's own sister states, and give in to Martial law, 11 Southern states seceded. (Another two sent delegates and seceded, but were heavily occupied by U.S. troops).

2- The Confederacy officially had 11 states, not 12.

3- Your statistic is incorrect. According to the Census of 1860, 5% of the South were registered slave owners.

4- It is spelled "Seceded", Not "Succeeded".

5- You are absolutely correct in your last statement. It was not particularly the end of slavery that scared the South, but it was the North unifying against a the South, not just to end slavery, but more importantly to gain power for themselves. It wouldn't have mattered if this industry was ketchup-bottle making. If a group of States are teaming up to defeat the only thing keeping you equal in a democratic society, you will naturally and rightfully retaliate.
SeanTheRanger

Con

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Debate Round No. 2
Killerchicken12

Pro

This is Akward....
SeanTheRanger

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
Killerchicken12

Pro

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SeanTheRanger

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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by LJenn 8 months ago
LJenn
The war was mostly fought over the how not one single southern state voted for Lincoln, and yet he won the national election
Posted by Khaz 8 months ago
Khaz
"It" being slavery, sorry.
Posted by Khaz 8 months ago
Khaz
I don't think any war was fought completely for any single purpose. Do you still accept that it was part of the rationale?
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