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The Classic Camaro is better then the New Camaro

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Started: 1/23/2012 Category: Technology
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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The Classic Camaro is better then the new Camaro in many ways. The original Camaro embodied the American spirit in every way. Horsepower, Speed, a winning nature, and was all its own. The body lines were clean, straight, and made to catch the eye of anyone on the street or strip that was looking for a good race. Nothing says fast like the hideaway headlight behind the all black in layed grill and sleek two door coupe design. The raw power of the unrestricted 327, 350, or 426 were the way the original Camaro was able to become such a menace to other muscle cars on the road. This is why the Original Camaro is better then the New Camaro.


Chevrolet Camaro 1969 SS396(old camero) 2011 SS(New camero)
Base price (2011 $) $3091 ($18,400) $31,795
Price as tested (2011 $) $4175 ($24,850) $37,740
Vehicle layout
Front-engine, RWD, 4-pass, 2-door coupe
Engine 6.5/375-hp/415-lb-ft
OHV 16-valve V-8 6.2L/426-hp/420-lb-ft
OHV 16-valve V-8
Transmission 4-speed manual 6-speed manual
Curb weight (f/r dist) 3550 lb (55/45% est) 3891 lb (52/48%)
Wheelbase 108.0 in 112.3 in
Length x width x height 186.0 x 74.0 x 51.1 in 190.4 x 75.5 x 54.2 in
0-60 mph 6.8 sec* 4.6 sec
Quarter mile 14.8 sec @ 98.7 mph* 12.9 sec @ 110.8 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 143 ft* 112 ft
*1969 test results and weight from Car Life, May 1969, exc braking, from MT, May 1968 test of 1969. Vintage hp/torgue specs SAE gross, new car SAE net

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Argument proven by chart that the new Camero is faster going to 110.08 mph in 12.9 seconds while the old Camero goes 98.7 mph in 14.8 seconds as well as break time. Both at 60 to 0 mph the new stops at 112ft while the old stops at 143ft.

The new one may be more expensive but it is way surpasses the old.
Debate Round No. 1


Though you are correct in your argument, both cars are subject to time period. The technological advances for the new camaro put it at a disadvantage. With modern day traction control and body control management it does not allow you to fully drive the vehicle to its limits. Yes the new camaro is faster, but it is only as fast (from factory) that the government will allow. The classic camaro was as fast as it could be with the technology that was developed at the time. If tthe 5 or 6 speed would have helped the older v8 reacher higher top speeds to that of the current camaro. The modern day air bags have been know to go off when pushing the camaro to its full potention on the track and street. *see link*

Though the classic camaro has its disadvantages up directly up against the camaro it can clearly hold its own in power and control for how old it really is.

Then there is the looks, the new camaro does not even come close to the beauty and lines of the classic camaro. The sleek lines and touches that made it a true american classic. The black inlay grill with hide away headlights and red rs or ss badging really set it apart from the crowd. Unlike its current day brother that just blends into the crowd.

The interior, plain but functional was elegant in its own way. With the "leather" trimmed front bucket seats was a classic look that still looks gorgeous to this day. It was nothing crazy with huge bulsters and colors, it was simple, clean, and functional. The wood grand dash and center console with the 4-speed manual or the 3-speed automatic with a billet pistol grip or simple knob pulled the center together.


My opponents argument pretty much is the new car is better but its speed would never be allowed and its breaks may be better but modern day traction control wouldn't allow to reach its limits... And the old is better looking....

Ok I object to the arguments after the source, this is because the arguments are based clearly on opinion.
The debate is which is better, not which is more beautiful.
Better does not mean more beautiful, if i gave a ugly pinto a V8 engine and gave a Ford 2011 Mustang a 4 cylinder the pinto would be faster.

For the actual point of the limits of the cars, on a race track the new one would win.

And the breaks are better still this wasn't attack.
Debate Round No. 2


Opponent states that better is just how fast it is and how it brakes. Nothing else about the vehicle plays a roll in making it better or worse then any other vehicle on the road.

If how beautiful or ugly a car is does not play a roll in it being better or worse then the other car then nothing would have changed on the car since the 1960s till today in 2012 except the motor and the brakes. Basing that argument merely on opinion that beauty and lines do not play a roll is preposterous.

The opponent has no evidence that the new camaro would or would not win on a track compared to the old, merely his opinion on the matter.

In this video you can see that the new and classic are near even with each other on all runs. Proving that the classic and new camaro, in the real world instead of just numbers, are pretty much dead even.


Beauty is of opinion, better in cars is ,more effective, safer, faster, etc. A car being safer or faster is not an opinion its a matter of face beauty is not. What others say is beautiful others will say is ugly its a subjective thing.

My opponent has failed to refute the facts that the new car is faster and safer with the breaks.

1.On a race track the New vs the Old the new would win, why? I gave you evidence, its not my opinion when the New one goes 110.8 miles per hour in 12.9 seconds and the Old goes only 98.7 miles per hour in 14.8 seconds.
The new one would win, its just simple deduction.

2.He goes on and says :"Though the classic camaro has its disadvantages up directly up against the camaro it can clearly hold its own in power and control for how old it really is."
This is pointless just cause it is decent doesn't make it better, it can hold it own yes can it win no.
Plus when you add new parts to the car you are changing your argument is the old version better than then new version not is my custom version of the old version better than just the new version...... no if that were the case I am sure I can find parts to make the New better than your custom version of the old.

3.When in this argument stock parts is needed because the "classic camero" means classic parts classic seat classic everything you cant argue classic car with new parts verses new car that is not the resolution.

Also I think he said they are dead even if you were to agree with him you cannot vote for his side or mine because he advocates a tie.
Therefore you should vote con.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by bcresmer 6 years ago
Hey! Don't diss on the Pinto. Freaking car is fun
Posted by jldev22 6 years ago
The purpose of creating new cars are because they are improved versions. So technically, the new camaro is better.
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