The Confederate Flag.
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I simply ask how this is so? The flag is simply a symbol. It is not anything but a banner to represent an idea.
The con continued to say "In no way does it show that people fight for this country, it is a symbol of mistakes."
No, it was a battle flag for an army on the losing side of a battle. These people were still fighting "for this country".
Then the con stated "It is the exact same situation as when Hitler took the Swastika and turned it into a racist flag."
Again, the Nazi flag was a banner for the party. It was only a symbol, a label of sorts and had no power to convey a message of it's own.
Then Con said "It only takes a slip up to make an innocent symbol into a racist symbol. If anyone honestly defends this flag, you're ruining the point of why this country came to be- human freedom."
In part, this is not an argument for the Cons side. It is only through attribution that a symbol gains any kind of meaning. It is simply an emotional response. If you are condemning a defense, than in a sense is that not ruining the point of this country, according to you? "Human freedom"?
"This country is supposed to give religious freedom and freedom of thought and speech for every citizen in America."
Does that preclude the people who honor those that fought under the southern cross? Do they not have a right to respect their heritage, even if it offends yours?
"People come here to take advantage of a better life and the south was ignorant and stupid."
Now who is being bigoted and small minded. That is a discriminatory statement.
"Honestly if the southern states that want to become their own country can go do that for all I care, they would fall into poverty and quickly become a third world country."
Why would this be assumed? Southern states have access to a large amount of the resources.
So the Con says "it's classified as offensive to thousands of people, just get rid of it and never touch it again."
So that which is offensive to someone, should be done without. You do realize that people are of different mind and have differing opinion. Many confederate flag proponents have zero affiliation with racism.
"If someone could give a non- religious and non- hateful example, then I might actually consider your opinion, otherwise grow up and accept the fact that it's a terrible sign."
Nothing I said so far should be taken as hateful, and certainly not religious. It is a symbol, that certainly has a bad image to many, that is respected by many people. Do we really need to empower symbolism and give it power and control over our lives and emotions.
Personally I think the flag should be dropped as it is just another symbol of segregation, but I think arguing and fighting for such is generally pushed for immature reasons. It is a flag, it has never killed or hurt anyone, and no one has killed or hurt for it.
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