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The Death Penalty Should be Banned in the United States

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Started: 5/20/2016 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Hillary4Prez

Pro

There are many reasons to abolish the death penalty in the U.S., but here are three of the major ones:

1: Cost--The death penalty often costs 1.5 to 3 times more than life imprisonment without possibility of release or parole. This is not just a large economic strain on our already underfunded prison system, but this means that this is money that could be going towards things that have actually been proven to reduce crime, such as early childhood education, high school dropout prevention programs, drug and alcohol treatment services, and mental health services. It also means that a criminal convicted in a rich area is more likely to be executed than a criminal in a poor area. As the Seattle Times editorial board put it, "It's an arbitrary version of justice by geography."

2: Mistaken executions--These are rare, but they happen. Capital punishment is unique in that it leaves no room for human error. Considering that it's arguably the worst punishment that our country has, this fact alone is reason enough to abolish the death penalty.

3: Harm to prison workers--When prison workers have to execute a convict, they suffer severe physical and psychological harm. According to Equal Justice USA, "Corrections officials, haunted by the experience of putting people to death, have committed suicide, turned to alcohol, or suffered mental and physical health problems."

For these three reasons, and many others, America must abolish capital punishment to preserve the (already fracturing) integrity of the American justice system.
Sebas.1999

Con

Hello I'm here to debate you and tell you why I think the death penalty is something good.
First: it it's true that the death penalty is expensive I can't deny that, but there is still chances that the criminal who is at the jail for life might escape and return doing their horrible crimes which will affect society, so that is not a good argument.
Secondly there most be a final punishments for someone who behaves wickedly and sometimes the only option left is death of course it won't be applied to someone who's not wicked enough to be killed, people like rapists,assassins and pedophiles do not deserve to go easily with no suffering, it's an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, and I'm pretty sure if you would have your son or daughter killed or raped you would want that person to be punished, and not just to be in a place where he's not free, you would want something similar for them.
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Debate Round No. 1
Hillary4Prez

Pro

Thanks for the quick response!

I do agree that there must be a "final punishment" for terrible people who do atrocious things. Normally, (in my state at least) convicts who are convicted of crimes punishable by death who aren't given the death penalty receive life imprisonment without possibility of release or parole. This is, in my opinion, an even worse sentence than the death penalty, but without the other negative aspects that the death penalty has.

I would like to reference the question that many people often ask about the death penalty: "Why do we kill people who kill people to prove that killing people is wrong?" This question points out the irony and the hypocrisy of the death penalty. No matter what, no government should take part in the killing of human beings, even if they deserve it. It brings us down to the level of rapists and murderers.

Finally, no matter how much someone may deserve to die, when one person is executed, many other innocent people have their lives ruined because of it. According to a retired prison warden by name of Ron McAndrews, he saw coworkers--people who had never even met the condemned--fight tears and hide in corners so as not to be seen. This is what witnessing or taking part in capital punishment does to people. When you're ruining many innocent lives just for some primitive idea of "revenge," it's just plain wrong, no matter which way you look at it.
Sebas.1999

Con

Well actually you're kind of right with your argument of hypocrisy in killing people, but it its in defense we can say, 100 lives matter more than 1 (and of course that sounds harsh but it's true), so this must be done just in extreme situations, sometimes it's better to kill someone than him killing more people.
With the prison for life thing it's kind of true but as I said earlier they can escape and start doing their crimes again, some criminals have so much power to escape prison that's a reality.
And with the thing that's heartbreaking I totally agree on that, of course their family are going to be sad and they're going to mourn the loss of their relative but imagine how many families did he made cry, it's harsh but true it's better than a few suffer than other bunch do, all the families of the victims suffered too and I could bet that those family victims suffered more than those that are family of the criminals.
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Debate Round No. 2
Hillary4Prez

Pro

That's true about the possibility of escape. However, the chances of this are relatively low.

I would agree about the part where you say, "...sometimes it's better to kill someone than him killing more people," but it's been proven that the death penalty actually doesn't prevent crime. See this graph, taken from the Death Penalty Info Center:

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org...

As you can see, the murder rates in states without the death penalty is consistently lower than states that execute convicts. This doesn't mean that the death penalty causes more murder, of course, but it sure proves that the death penalty is a pretty ineffective deterrent. 87% of expert criminologists also agree that the abolition of the death penalty would have no effect on murder rates.

Additionally, you're right about the families of those executed--really good point. Just to clarify, I was talking about the prison wardens who have to execute the inmates, not the families of the executed.

Thanks!
Sebas.1999

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
Hillary4Prez

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Debate Round No. 4
Hillary4Prez

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Con

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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by cdaehler 1 year ago
cdaehler
I am in agreement with you, based on your first two points, and the fact that now a days prisoners can be controlled much better, making it safer for the other prisoners. My only question would be, how do you feel about capital punishment if prisoners were to request it, and how do you feel about capital punishment for terrorists?
Posted by Richardsonalj 1 year ago
Richardsonalj
While I agree with you, you need to realise that Capital Punishment isn't unconstitutional. This is because it does not break the 8th amendment: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. If you have an issue with capital punishment, please appeal to your state's courts until it reaches the federal courts, the Supreme Court of the United States. Or contact your nearest representative so that it can become a bill, go through senate, and possibly signed by the president and examined by the Supreme Court. If you can find a way to make it unconstitutional, it will be banned. Debating it here does nothing.
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