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The Death Penalty

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Started: 3/14/2017 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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JohnnyDepp420

Pro

I belive in the death penalty for many reasons but here are the big ones for me:

1. Death penalty costs the government less as opposed to life imprisonment without parole.
Proponents say despite expenses incurred by the government from imposing capital punishment, death penalty is still cheaper compared to the costs of life without parole. Although there is no contention that the cost of the former is high, life imprisonment is accumulatively higher given the expenses for food, health care and other costs of sustaining the lives of incarcerated individuals serving life.

2. It deters would-be criminals to commit felonies.
Advocates of death penalty cite examples on how imposing the death sentence or abolishing it has affected crime rate. According to a study conducted in the late 1960"s, there was a 7% crime rate increase on the years when this law was abolished. On the other hand, fewer crimes were committed with the increase in number of inmates in the death row who were executed each year. Proponents say that these figures clearly indicate the efficacy of capital punishment on deterring crimes.

3. The absence of death penalty is synonymous to crime rate increase.
As reported by time magazine, an estimated 2,000,000 people in the United States have been victims of crimes, from assault to murder. With insufficient laws to address this problem or the lack of teeth in these laws, criminals become careless and bolder to commit heinous crimes because of the leniency in punishments and loop holes in the justice system. For these reason, there is a need for death penalty.
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4. It is constitutional and does not violate the Eight Amendment which prohibits the federal government from imposing excessive bail, fines and cruel and unusual punishments, including torture.
Advocates of death penalty say that the pain associated with the execution of a death row inmate is not improbable. Even the U.S. Supreme Court has rejected the Eight Amendment challenge which stated that the drug used to render the criminal coma-like unconscious before injecting the lethal drug is not capable to do so completely. The Supreme Court was firm on its stand that any method of execution definitely will inflict some pain and states with capital punishment have already adopted more humane methods to carry out executions.

5. Death penalty is a just punishment for crimes committed against the rights to life, freedom and safety of victims.
It is the right of an individual to live peacefully and be free from harm. Unfortunately, crimes like murder, rape and assault are committed by perpetrators who have no regard for life and property of others. Since they violate other people"s lives, it is but fair that they are brought to justice and suffer the fate they rightfully deserve. People who are for capital punishment also talk about free will wherein an individual is given the right to do things in his or her own volition and he or she is responsible for his or her own fate.
ytytytytyttyytytyt

Con

'An Eye for an Eye' mentality has never convinced me. I, personally, see no logic in killing someone for killing someone else. In no way am I trying to excuse formidable crimes such as Rape and Murder, but a lot of these people, do indeed have mental health issues and putting them in a mental asylum is the way forward; depending on the case, obviously. Also, there is no reason to suggest that because someone who has raped someone at the age of 18 or 19 cannot go on to have a normal life. They can acknowledge what they've done, but obviously, that comes down to the person. Then there is the whole issue of if they actually did it or not. Plus, I happen to agree the majority would rather face the quick way out rather than 'rot in jail' - I certainly would!
Debate Round No. 1
JohnnyDepp420

Pro

Well then answer these questions
Q: Doesn't the Death Penalty deter crime especially murder?

Q: Don't murderers deserve to die?

Q: If execution is unacceptable, what is the alternative?

Q: Have strict procedures eliminated arbitrariness and discrimination in death sentencing?

Q: Maybe it used to happen that innocent people were mistakenly executed, but hasn't that possibility been eliminated?

Q: "Cruel and unusual punishment" -- those are strong words, but aren't executions relatively swift and painless?
ytytytytyttyytytyt

Con

Declarations say NO! "Natural and legal rights are two types of rights. Legal rights are those bestowed onto a person by a given legal system. Natural rights are those not contingent upon the laws, customs, or beliefs of any particular culture or government, and therefore universal and inalienable (i.E., cannot be sold, transferred, or removed)." -Wikipedia

As stated by Wikipedia natural rights are universal to all human beings despite culture, customs or beliefs. The crime of capital punishment, is that it violates several articles of the declaration of universal human rights. First it ignores Article 3: "Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person." By denying the defendent the right to life. Next it violates Article 5: "No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment." Clearly capital punishment is Inhuman and by subjecting a person to forcible death, the cruelty is blatantly apparent.
In conclusion capital punishment should not be justified . It is not only invalidated in the declaration of universal human rights but our own declaration as well. The discrimination of criminals is evident when capital punishment is used.
Debate Round No. 2
JohnnyDepp420

Pro

You didn't answer my question!
ytytytytyttyytytyt

Con

Capital Punishment in America has become crazy and unethical. Capital punishment has been taken out of the context of the bible. The bible recommends it for over thirty other crimes which include some that even you and I are guilty of; which are including but not limited to idolatry, blasphemy, work on the Sabbath, being disloyal to a parent, or even adultery. So who are we to say which sin is greater than another one; in fact the bible says in James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one [point], he is guilty of all." Therefore we should all be put to death. James 4:12 says, " There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?" Proving that we have no right to judge someone or put them to death because they did wrong. It's not our place but it's Gods!

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Capital punishment is not needed There are other ways to punish someone of their crimes many being more moral than the death penalty. Taking someone's life is wrong no matter their crime. People who do wrong do deserve to be punished but in a more moral way like maybe a life sentence no one should have their life taken from them they have rights too no matter how immoral their actions
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The death penalty costs more because of pre-trial formalities including attorney fees, expert opinions, mitigation, extensive genetic testing, autopsy and overtime for everyone involved in the process. It drains the government's resources at the cost our, the taxpayer's, money (Death penalties cost approximately $90,000 more per year than regular sentences).

Morally - It is a crime against humanity.

Killing someone because they committed a crime is not justice, it's murder. We are teaching our kids that an eye for an eye is justice. Also, killing them is basically setting them free and giving them the easy way out. Let them rot in prison without parole for the rest of their lives and work them to death.

Declarations say NO! "Natural and legal rights are two types of rights. Legal rights are those bestowed onto a person by a given legal system. Natural rights are those not contingent upon the laws, customs, or beliefs of any particular culture or government, and therefore universal and inalienable (i.E., cannot be sold, transferred, or removed)." -Wikipedia

As stated by Wikipedia natural rights are universal to all human beings despite culture, customs or beliefs. The crime of capital punishment, is that it violates several articles of the declaration of universal human rights. First it ignores Article 3: "Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person." By denying the defendent the right to life. Next it violates Article 5: "No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment." Clearly capital punishment is Inhuman and by subjecting a person to forcible death, the cruelty is blatantly apparent.
In conclusion capital punishment should not be justified . It is not only invalidated in the declaration of universal human rights but our own declaration as well. The discrimination of criminals is evident when capital punishment is used.

Don't let the criminals not do the time for their crime. Capital punishment shouldn't be allowed in any sercumstanc. The criminals should have to go to jail for their crime. Killing them off is kind of like another way of them getting away with it. They should be spending their time in jail where they will take the time to know what they did. Also, a lot of criminals expect to be killed because of the crimes that they have committed. Don't let them think that they can "get away with it" and just put them into a jail cell.
Posted by: Bri_Can Report Post

No, I am against Capital punishment. I do not believe that capital punishment is a good thing. I feel it is too strong. If someone steals a piece of food, you think its right to remove their hand? What if that was a starving child? Capital punishment is cruel and unusual. I think we need to keep capital punishment out of any and every country.
Posted by: ImRightYourWrongg Report Post

Capital punishment does not have a significant effect on crime. There is no data that suggests capital punishment affects crime rates. This is important because the primary argument for capital punishment is that it discourages certain behavior. When people deterioriate mentally to a point at which they choose to commit the types of crime punishable by death, the consequences of their crimes are of little consideration. Capital punishment is, therefore, a costly, fruitless form of punishment.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by whiteflame 1 year ago
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Posted by SmartNigga 1 year ago
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Dear pro or con, who ever helps me win the " Was the Atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki necessary?" debate first i will vote for u and help u win this debate
Posted by Yazuken 1 year ago
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I would just like to say to JohnnyDepp420, the one who is pro Death Penalty, that I noticed you seemed very upset that your opponent did not answer your questions from round 2. I think it is important to remember that just because one ask a question does not mean that another is obliged to answer. There are many reasons why an individual in a debate may refuse to answer certain questions. One is that many times the person being questioned may find the question or questions to be irrelevant to the topic at hand. Another is that in debates, it is not uncommon for individuals to use questions as a way to compose a straw man argument and/or misrepresent their opponent's statements or perspectives. Non-compliance to answer a question also does not necessarily make an opponent in an argument more or less correct on their stance.
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